All: Disclosure and Consent

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You don’t think it’s deceitful of them to hide their wedding ring, or to lie and say they are divorced?

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

Lying would be deceitful

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Jesus Christ I really think you’re a long con troll. I have to believe this. Otherwise you’re actually terrifying.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

I mean you’re the group that allies itself with the right in order to take peoples rights away and make them less safe. So I have the same opinion of GC

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Also- why are you even bringing this up when we are literally talking about consent?

Like you support rape (if and only if it’s rape by deception, and then only if the rapist is trans), but sure I guess I’m just as awful for thinking females deserve equality lol

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I disagree with your transphobic definition of rape by deception.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You disagree that not telling a partner the truth about your sex is not telling a partner the truth about your sex?

Interesting. And incredibly convenient for you lmao

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You’ve already acknowledged that consent to sex is not consent to all types of sex. You said this, you offered this, I didn’t ask you if you thought that.

So you acting like it’s okay for trans people to not disclose when they know it could be a deal breaker is you admitting that your desire for sex matters more than someone’s ability to consent to that sex.

Maybe you think rape is only rape when it’s forceful or violent. That’s not true.

If you deny someone the ability to offer informed consent, you have stolen someone’s agency from them because you wanted to get off. If that’s not rape, it is still wrong, it’s still a violation. It’s still fucking disgusting and the fact that you have never actually explained why and how it’s not but still continue to insist that it’s okay for trans people to not disclose is honestly incredibly scary.

Go ahead and tell me you think I’m scary too- I’m not the one advocating raping people because you don’t want to be honest or limit your dating pool to people who actually want to date you. You are. So even if we’re both scary, only one of us supports sexual violation and it’s not me.

That’s the thing- limited though the number may be, there are actually people open to dating trans people. So there’s no justification for not finding those people and instead raping people who wouldn’t want to be with you if they knew the truth, or raping people because you couldn’t be bothered to find out that they are actually open to being with you.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let me guess, radfems occasionally allying with conservatives says something about radfems in general, but this doesn't say anything about transwomen in general, right?

A recently published study on LGBTQ political leanings finds that transgender individuals are “significantly less liberal” than even cisgender men.

That's how it works in Heimdekledi Land, right?

Radfems sometimes ally with the right but you are the right in many cases, lol.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There’s a drastic difference between attempting to preserve rights you’ve already fought for and trying to take rights away from someone.

Transwomen took rights from women. Women want to take those rights back. We are, once again, not the same.

[–]BiologyIsReal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's TRA who are changing laws and policies behind everyone's back whithout any care about how they could affect anyone else. It's also TRA who constantly send rape and death threaths to dissenting women. It's also TRA who are burning books and suppressing dissenting voices. It's also TRA who are weaponising suicide to get what they want. It's also TRA who have got people fired for stating that sex is real and it does matter. It's also TRA who are keen on ignoring everyone else's boundaries. It's TRA who are advocating for the chemical castration of children.