Both: Are sexual stereotypes about men and women in the bedroom true?

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[–]adungitit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

The problem is the idea that being penetrated is in any way indicative of femininity, and worse yet, that anal penetration is in any way comparable to having a vagina. These ideas get used against women all the time, now to the point of arguing against out very existence.

I've never experienced or cared for penetration, because the anatomical centre of my arousal is on the outside, as it is in all people. A lot of lesbians are the same way because they have the luxury of not defining themselves (entirely) according to men's preferences. For straight women, this isn't really an option because they're made to believe penetration is obligatory and the only possible way for them to have sex, regardless of their difficulties, sexual enjoyment, misogynistic perceptions of the act, risks and even health complications.

[–]worried19[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Peaking didn't bring it up, though, I did. And I also stated I don't believe being penetrated is an indication of femininity. Plenty of masculine men like having things up their ass, straight and gay alike.

For straight women, this isn't really an option because they're made to believe penetration is obligatory and the only possible way for them to have sex, regardless of their difficulties, sexual enjoyment, risks and even health complications.

Or you know, maybe some of us do genuinely enjoy our vaginas being penetrated by penises. I think it feels fantastic. There's no problem if any woman doesn't like it, regardless of her sexual orientation. It doesn't make her any more or less female. Women are women regardless of how they like having sex.

[–]adungitit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Peaking didn't bring it up, though, I did.

I don't care who brought it up? I care about what was said. Whether you said it, or a snail on the street is 100% irrelevant to me.

I don't believe being penetrated is an indication of femininity.

Okay? Your previous comments directly tie these things to gender. Whether you personally believe something is irrelevant to me. I care about the statements that you have made and the fact that they rely on these gender norms. If you disagree, then word this disagreement. Avoiding this by derailing to who brought up what and making empty statements about what you feel is completely irrelevant to me and what I'm talking about.

maybe some of us do genuinely enjoy our vaginas being penetrated by penises.

And plenty of women like being whipped and getting titjobs. Your point? The "some women like it" bs is the most tired, brainless excuse, and it doesn't justify misogynistic sexual norms one bit. Some men like getting hit in the balls, how about we normalise that?

[–]worried19[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're seriously comparing having intercourse to sexual violence.

Forget it. I don't know why you are so hostile and aggressive to everyone, but I'm out of the conversation.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry you got pulled into this Worried... ☹️

I’m starting to feel like this is more about them and their issues than any of us. I probably should have just not replied.

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not your fault. I'm not sure this particular poster likes anyone here. She also had negative comments about me wanting to talk to theory.