Both: In light of recent events. In what context is Voyeurism and Indecent Exposure acceptable? Is there a rational justification for making an exception for males who claim to be women?

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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

… the concept of being uncomfortable around male bodies is something that is understood and sympathized with- but only if you’re a male yourself?

It’s not just comfort. It’s safety. If I go into a men’s locker room I will at least have a higher than average chance of being physically assaulted. Why can’t you at least acknowledge that as a motivation for not wanting to be in men’s spaces? Men are dangerous to trans women. Being in an enclosed and isolated space with them more so. Can you at least acknowledge that? You know i prefer single occupancy spaces anyway but you know that at minimum some trans women don’t want to be in men’s spaces because they are worried about physical harm.

[–]divingrightintowork 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

When my state introduced self-ID in bathrooms there was no decrease in bathroom violence, because there wasn't really any existent bathroom violence. Also I've had no problems using male restrooms when necessary. How many times have you been physically attacked in the bathroom when making a beeline to the stall, then sink, then back out?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

How many times have you been physically attacked in the bathroom when making a beeline to the stall, then sink, then back out?

Once. When I was attacked I was walking in and headed to a stall. That’s why I stopped using men’s bathrooms. I was attacked for literally no possible other reason than because I am visibly trans.

[–]divingrightintowork 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You don't think men are ever randomly violent to other men?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Sometimes but less often and men can defend themselves.