Both: In light of recent events. In what context is Voyeurism and Indecent Exposure acceptable? Is there a rational justification for making an exception for males who claim to be women?

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

men are dangerous wherever they are. They are just hardest to escape when in a tiny single exit room with more than average privacy and

But you’re arguing for making men allowed to use the women’s room on a whim despite saying men are dangerous.

Why would letting men into women’s spaces make anyone safer?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

Actually I’m arguing we can’t be with men and need a place to go. And that trans women act with necessity. But I also argue that trans women aren’t men so I’m not saying men should be let in anywhere.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Transwomen are men and that’s fact, not a matter of opinion but go off.

Well, since you apparently agree that no transwoman has any business going into any space that is for actual women, you say third spaces aren’t acceptable because they out users, and using the correct sexed facilities is impossible because of a small risk of violence, are you suggesting that all transgender people should stay at home?

Is this really all just a front for you to piss and moan about not getting what you feel is just from the world?

You offer no answers, call women liars when they offer up facts and figures, consistently refuse to back up anything you claim because it’s clearly pulled from your ass, and insist we are all secretly spending hours of every single day thinking about how much we hate you in a grand conspiracy to ruin your life in particular.

Did you come here for anything other than to inflict self harm using other people as proxies?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

You conveniently leave off the fact that I’ve repeatedly said that neutral single occupancy facilities are actually a good option but enjoy you as hominem attacks and insults.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You yourself have also said they are no good because you’d be outed.

I didn’t insult you, you’d know if I did. For future reference it looms something like ‘xxxxxx you are a human dumpster and an idiot’ If I decide to insult you, the x’s would be your username.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

No I said that’s a problem with dedicated trans facilities. I’m advocating for neutral single occupancy facilities, not dedicated trans facilities.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh right the facilities you have argued are impossible to get because businesses all hate transgender people.

That’s your solution?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

No I said dedicated trans facilities were impossible. Getting more neutral single facilities might be possible. That’s why I am arguing for it.