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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

I’m not talking about trans woman. I’m talking about anyone leering at someone in a women’s locker room. Cis or trans. Anyone leering should be removed. That’s my response to the voyerism part of the question.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The voyeurs here are transwomen who undress in women’s spaces, thereby exposing unconsenting women to their male bodies.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

That would be exhibitionism not voyerism.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh you’re right. They are actually exhibitionists and vouyers, undressing in front of unconsenting women and watching unconsenting women undress Thankyou for the correction.

Regardless, we aren’t trying to sneak a peek or leering at the men who invade our spaces because of some lady identity bullshit.

The transwoman is not the person being leered at, the women and girls are. Nobody is leering when he bares his penis. They are being exposed to him.

[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What, you think that male exhibitionism & voyeurism are mutually exclusive? That a male swinging his dick & balls in a women's space where girls & women are naked can't possibly be getting aroused at the girls' & women's bodies in his view whilst he is simultaneously getting off off displaying his dick & balls in their faces?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

No. I made a blanket statement about anyone in a locker room. Women in a women’s room, men in a men’s room, anyone in either. You are making it about trans people when I stated a general rule.

[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I'm not making it about people who call themselves trans. I am pointing out that when a male person goes into a sex-segregated space for female people where women & girls are naked & flaunts his dick & balls in their faces (exhibitionism), he is usually looking at their naked bodies at the same time without their consent (voyeurism). Plus, he is usually getting off not just from violating their boundaries & seeing their naked bodies, he is also getting off on seeing the discomfort & distress that his naked, leering presence causes them.

I don't get how you can be so aware of, & vigilant about, the dangers you say men pose to males who "identify as" women, but so blithely dismissive of the dangers men pose to girls & women & so unconcerned about the welfare of female human beings.