Both: In light of recent events. In what context is Voyeurism and Indecent Exposure acceptable? Is there a rational justification for making an exception for males who claim to be women?

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Should trans status give individuals immunity from sex crime law?

Absofuckinglutely not.

Exposing a penis anywhere that is not the one room set aside for penises to be out, is indecent exposure. Considering how unabashedly agp many tw are, it’s often sexual assault as well.

Identity should not mean shit to law. Identity is personal, not public.

Do women have a right to choose who is and who is not allowed to view their naked bodies?

Yes. Without any justification or questioning.

Do women have a right to only see penis when they consent to it?

Yes. Without any justification or questioning. Forcing someone to view your penis, regardless of how feminine one claims it to be, is sexual harassment.

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

can you imagine a world where they'd get that immunity? They'll be fighting for it very soon, if they don't already have it. They are already turned swinging their dicks around in front of little girls into the little girl leering at them. Where's Lorena Bobbit when we need her?

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Lorena? Being vilified as the instigator and abusive one in her former marriage.

It’s unreal and I gotta wonder how hard it is for the women who support this shit to keep up the cognitive dissonance needed to say, out loud, that little girls need to see more cocks.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It’s truly very alarming that so many people do not see the issue with teaching little girls that it’s normal to be exposed to a penis

Like, identity and valid gender feels uwu aside- how do you not see that that opens the door to problems even in private spaces, while increasing the risks for public ones????

It’s not enough to not give a fuck about women, they don’t even care about the dangers this opens innocent children to. We’ve spent centuries teaching girls to be cautious around men and not only are they lobbying (successfully) to undo that, they’re taking it a step further and saying not only to not be weary of men generally- don’t be weary of the ones desperate to share intimate spaces with you, and also if they get naked and you feel uncomfortable you should work on yourself. It’s setting up removing any sense of boundaries.

It’s giving off heavy “grooming” vibes.

And then they get mad when we associate them with predators or say we feel unsafe.

And then gaslight us for seeing them as predators and feeling unsafe.

They should just change their flag to a giant bright red one

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It’s absolutely grooming children. They are teaching them that it’s okay to be around naked men when it’s not. It’s not safe and fuck it, call me a prude, but it’s not decent.

It’s removing all boundaries that protect the children and replacing them with the idea that women who oppose this are the ones to be frightened of.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s removing all boundaries that protect the children and replacing them with the idea that women who oppose this are the ones to be frightened of.

Which just ends up ensuring that if something does happen, the children won’t know who to turn to for help or protection.

There’s nobody that won’t be sacrificed for them

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly! Gods, we already hear about how it’s very very bad to ‘misgender’ sex offenders. Imagine being afraid to report the man who’s touched you because you might be rejected by everyone as a bigot.

It’s totally fucked, and seems so calculated. Every scrap won by feminists is being quickly and methodically torn apart.

[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but a clear grooming agenda seems to have taken over Western society: little girls & women have to get used to dicks & balls & men's naked bodies shoved in their faces. Kids must be exposed to plenty of kink at Pride. Toddlers must be taken to "drag queen story hours" so they become accustomed to the sight of men dressed as grotesque caricatures of women & learn these men must be referred to as "Miss" & "Lady" & regarded as women.

Now we've reached a point where when grown men wave their dicks in the faces of little girls, the little girls are the ones at fault - not just for feeling frightened & distressed at the sight of dick, balls & naked big scary predatory men - but for looking in the first place. Those awful little girls should be raised to have better manners.

The children who've been accused of "leering at" the genitals of the nice, innocent sex offender at the WI Spa should also be taller; after all, it's not the fault of flashers that so many little kids faces are the same distance from the floor as their dicks. Why can't these kids learn to look at their sex abusers in the eye?

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes!! It’s so pervasive and so demanding of women and girls in particular! It just looks so methodical when it’s all laid out like this. There is no refuge