QT: What rights don’t trans people have?

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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 2 insightful - 10 fun2 insightful - 9 fun3 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

Here are some examples of cis privilege:

  1. I can use public restrooms that match my gender without fear of verbal abuse, physical intimidation, or arrest

  2. I have the ability to walk through the world and generally blend-in, not being constantly stared or gawked at, whispered about, pointed at, or laughed at because of my gender expression.

  3. Strangers call me by the name I provide, and don’t ask what my “real name” [birth name] is and then assume that they have a right to call me by that name.

  4. I can reasonably assume that my ability to acquire a job, rent an apartment, or secure a loan will not be denied on the basis of my gender identity/expression.

  5. I have the ability to flirt, engage in courtship, or form a relationship and not fear that my biological status may be cause for rejection or attack, nor will it cause my partner to question their sexual orientation.

  6. If I end up in the emergency room, I do not have to worry that one gender will keep me from receiving appropriate treatment, or that all of my medical issues will be seen as a result of my gender.

  7. My identity is not considered a mental pathology (“gender identity disorder” in the DSM IV) by the psychological and medical establishments.

  8. People don't speculate that my gender identity is a result of abuse or trauma.

  9. I have the ability to not worry about being placed in a sex-segregated detention center, holding facility, jail or prison that is incongruent with my identity.

  10. I can easily find role models and mentors to emulate who share my identity.

  11. Hollywood accurately depicts people of my gender in films and television, and does not solely make my identity the focus of a dramatic storyline, or the punchline for a joke.

  12. I will not be harassed by the police or denied services at a bank or other institution because my legal sex does not match my gender presentation.

[–]kwallio 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm going to have to push back on the mental health aspect of this a bit. Is gender dysphoria a mental health problem or not? If not then whey all the medicalisation, surgeries etc? Why are people being told that trans people will literally commit suicide if they don't get what they want?

If it is a mental health disorder than why is only medical transition and not counseling or some other sort of therapy or mental health treatment part of the treatment plan? No other mental health disorder is treated like this.

The trans narrative on mental health vis a vis gender dysphoria is completely inconsistent. You seriously can't have it both ways, both a mental health conditions and completely normal, must be treated with transition only and no other mental health type treatment. Its ridiculous on the face of it.

People threatening suicide in any other context is typically considered manipulative behavior and should never be indulged. Except when someone is trans, for some reason.

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No other mental health disorder is treated like this.

Right. I'm going to bring up bipolar, since u/Genderbender identified herself as a patient and it runs in my own family, so I know it very well (ditto at least one other user here per another thread).

You cannot (for instance) build and promulgate advocacy for bipolar disorder patients that both affirms and denies its existence as a mental health disorder. You must choose.

Similarly, you cannot build and promulgate advocacy for trans people where GD is repeatedly cited and officially acknowledged as a feature of the trans experience and simultaneously deny mental illness (aka GD) as being a feature of the trans experience. You must choose.