Both: How do you feel about Title IX being changed to protect gender identity instead of biological sex?

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[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's where my thinking is. I've been tracking how this drama has helped erode LGB support. Hostility flares up, spitefulness gets entrenched on both sides, and tolerance goes down. Nobody wins.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm sure watching this all devolve has been like watching a particularly sad car crash.

My gay childhood boy friends were very supportive of me when I transitioned; my former bosses were a lesbian couple who knew me from before and are the sweetest, caring, most protective people; and my BFF (who knows my history) is bi and she's like a sister to me, so I didn't realize that those community relations soured overall until really exploring online at the beginning of this year.

There are so many people in my life who are LGB, and those closest have always been nothing but supportive of me and of trans people in general. The thought of someone trying to shame or bully a loved one into sleeping with them is angering, trans or not. And to see these people who have always been supportive suddenly be referred to as hateful and transphobic for not wanting to sleep with trans people is so beyond irritating. It's hard to be upset with anyone who is totally put off by trans people because of things like that.

[–]worried19[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is one of those things where I feel bad that now I look at the trans community with suspicion. Of course there are still plenty of moderate trans people who are just living their lives normally doing the best they can. But then there are also these activists, who all seem extremely unpleasant. I've never seen or heard of a friendly TRA. Honestly, I don't get how we got from 2015 to 2021. Things changed so dramatically in such a short span of time. I guess I peaked in early 2017. It was impossible not to notice how much crazier everything was getting.

I'm glad you have friendly and supportive people in your own life. It's my hope that people understand that the trans community is made up of individuals with varying beliefs. I appreciate that there are trans people in the public eye speaking out. Even if they get cancelled or attacked, they're still trying. Much respect to Buck Angel and Scott Newgent and others who are trying their best. And to you, too. I think your YouTube channel is helpful. Every little bit helps to show that trans people are not a monolith.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's an unholy mess, and I think the damage is going to affect everyone to some degree, GD patients and conscientious trans people included -- because of ideological extremists and the controls they were blithely handed (social media).

[–]worried19[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Seriously. I'm a moderate. I've always been a moderate. I would love to be able to find compromises. But trans rights activists are so extreme, they label even people who are friendly and eager to seek compromises as the enemy. They're turning people who used to be allies against them. It really sucks. Apparently I'm evil because I don't think children should transition and biological males don't belong in women's sports or prisons.

This was common sense only a few years ago, but TRAs just keep pushing and pushing and pushing. Eventually they're going to push too far, and the whole community is going to face backlash, including the moderate trans people who had nothing to do with this activism. And don't forget lesbians, gays, and bisexuals, who also got dragged along without any input from them.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Somehow, somewhere, activists began to think that progressivism can do no wrong. Naïveté? Shelteredness? Ignorance of history?

And here we are.