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[–]HeimdeklediROAR 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (13 children)

Gay and Trans are both western concepts that shouldn’t be applied to ancient indigenous cultures

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Not really, homosexuality existed and was named in other cultures and in religious books outside of the west and thousands years ago. Also homosexuality is observed among a lot of different species of animals, even among ones who have no social culture or are loners.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 3 insightful - 8 fun3 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 8 fun -  (11 children)

“Homosexual” is from the late 19th century.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The name is new but the concept has existed throughout history and in other species. Despite your nominalism bs, homosexuality is not a modern invention just because the name is modern.

[–]SnowAssMan[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

"Dinosaur" is from the late 19th century too. Their remains were unearthed by cultures all around the world before then though. Homosexuality is actually measurable (eye-tracking, for instance). It's not an invention.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 9 fun1 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 9 fun -  (7 children)

The term homosexuality is different from same sex attraction.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Homo, meaning same..sexual referring to sexual attraction.

What is homosexuality if it isn’t same sex attraction?

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

You should not apply modern labels to ancient people

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For no reason other than you say so?

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is that just regarding sexuality and/or gender identity? I understand and agree with the spirit of what you're saying, but why would that apply to something like sexuality or gender identity but not something like race or disability or neurodiversity? I'm sorry to be pedantic, I'm just a bit confused 😅

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

No I’d apply it to all of the above

[–]SnowAssMan[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

only if different means the same.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

We shouldn’t be describing ancient people with modern labels

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Homosexuality was mentioned and banned in religious books 2500 years ago, and homosexuality is observed in animals and there were even found evidence of homosexuality among primated hundreds thousands years ago. So no, it is not "appeared" in 19th century.

Or you mean word itself? Naming something differently is not changing the thing itself. If we name shotgun as "healing machine" - when we use it on person, it will still kill them, not heal. Words and language is an instrument, they exist only to communicate between people, so they must mean the same or almost the same for people, so we can communicate and explain our thoughts to each other. That is why all words have their definitions.