Same-sex sexual desire as the natural, but not actualised, default (criticism of sexuality)

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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I feel like you are a bisexual person projecting your experiences on to everyone else. I know I didn’t choose to be homosexual. If it was that way, then I feel like more heterosexual people would choose to be homosexual. I’ve always been friends with girls and women and don’t have any really male friends, so like why wouldn’t I have chosen to be with women. Female bodies repulsive to me that way though and that is just how I’m made.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Female bodies repulsive to me that way though and that is just how I’m made.

I'm sorry, what? From your posts & our exchanges I got the impression you have gone to great lengths to alter your body to appear female, using hormones, surgeries, cosmetics, grooming methods, clothing & accessories to assist you. If female bodies are repulsive to you, sexually or in any other way, why have you taken steps to appear to have one?

I understand you - and others- not being sexually attracted to women. But finding the bodies of female people "repulsive" is a whole other matter. That means female bodies cause you intense distaste or disgust.

Synonyms for repulsive from Oxford: revolting, disgusting, abhorrent, repellent, repugnant, offensive, objectionable, vile, foul, nasty, loathsome, sickening, nauseating, stomach-churning, stomach-turning, hateful, detestable, execrable, abominable, monstrous, appalling, reprehensible, deplorable, insufferable, intolerable, despicable, contemptible, beyond the pale, unspeakable, noxious, horrendous, heinous, atrocious, awful, terrible, dreadful, frightful, obnoxious, unsavory, unpleasant, disagreeable, distasteful, dislikeable, off-putting, uninviting, displeasing; ugly, as ugly as sin, hideous, grotesque, gruesome, unsightly, reptilian; North American vomitous; informal ghastly, horrible, horrid, godawful, gross, putrid, sick-making, sick, yucky, icky, fugly; British informal beastly; Northern Irish informal bogging; North American informal skanky; New Zealand informal huckery; literary noisome; archaic disgustful, scurvy, loathly; rare rebarbative.

I have never, ever heard women who are solely sexually attracted to men say that they find female bodies sexually repulsive. None of my gay male friends find female bodies repulsive.

[–]strictly 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But finding the bodies of female people "repulsive" is a whole other matter.

Peakingatthemonoment said that way, referring to sexually, not in general. I feel the same way about men. It doesn’t mean I think all men are objectively ugly, there are horses, cats and dogs who look cute to me too, yet I, like most people, find non-human animals sexually repulsive regardless of their cuteness.

Synonyms for repulsive from Oxford: revolting, disgusting, abhorrent, repellent, repugnant, offensive, objectionable, vile, foul, nasty, loathsome, sickening, nauseating, stomach-churning, stomach-turning, hateful, detestable, execrable, abominable, monstrous, appalling, reprehensible, deplorable, insufferable, intolerable, despicable, contemptible, beyond the pale, unspeakable, noxious, horrendous, heinous, atrocious, awful, terrible, dreadful, frightful, obnoxious, unsavory, unpleasant, disagreeable, distasteful, dislikeable, off-putting, uninviting, displeasing; ugly, as ugly as sin, hideous, grotesque, gruesome, unsightly, reptilian; North American vomitous; informal ghastly, horrible, horrid, godawful, gross, putrid, sick-making, sick, yucky, icky, fugly; British informal beastly; Northern Irish informal bogging; North American informal skanky; New Zealand informal huckery; literary noisome; archaic disgustful, scurvy, loathly; rare rebarbative.

I think all those things are natural things to feel regarding the idea of having unwanted sex with someone one isn’t attracted to. Usually I don’t think about of how it would be like to have unwanted sex, but if the topic comes up, I would say it would be repulsive. It’s not a criticism of the person, I imagine most women, as most women straight, would find it repulsive to be with me sexually, I don’t see that as a sign of disrespect.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I was worried it might come out wrong... I mean repulsive sexually. I don’t mean that in any other way whatsoever. If I imagine myself doing something sexual with a woman, that is disgusting to me. It’s not because female bodies are disgusting though and I like female beauty and fashion. I will admit being a little squeamish about vulvas (and my surgical one too, although fortunately I can’t see it without a mirror). Strictly mentions finding males revolting sexually so I don’t think I’m the only person who feels this way.

[–]worried19 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I feel the same. Repulsive is maybe too strong a word, but I'd go with intensely uninteresting in a sexual context. And in particular, performing oral sex on a woman would be more than just unarousing. I don't think I could do it.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And in particular, performing oral sex on a woman would be more than just unarousing. I don't think I could do it.

Totally agree

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Compelled, impelled, repelled -- they're the dynamics of attraction. We don't really have many (any?) better words for it in commonly used English. I hear you.