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[–]MarkTwainiac 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You are conflating two totally separate issues: 1) drugs that people abuse because they have mood-altering & other effects they like & which cause them to experience some kind of high, & are psychologically & physically addictive; and 2) drugs that have unwanted "side effects."

Yes, all drugs have "side effects." But not all drugs are addictive or are subject to abuse.

Also to your earlier statement that

women already have some testosterone

Yes, that's true. But women normally have testosterone levels that are a teeny-tiny fraction of the male levels that trans-identified females try to reach & mimic by taking drugs. Moreover, endogenous T produced naturally by a girl or woman's ovaries & adrenals is not at all the same as the exogenous, artificial T mass-produced in factories by Big Pharma.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (6 children)

You are conflating two totally separate issues: 1) drugs that people abuse because they have mood-altering & other effects they like & which cause them to experience some kind of high, & are psychologically & physically addictive; and 2) drugs that have unwanted "side effects."

Yes, all drugs have "side effects." But not all drugs are addictive or subject to abuse.

Sure, but trans men taking T to physically transition is not abusing T.

Yes, that's true. But women normally have testosterone levels that are a teeny-tiny fraction of the male levels that trans-identified females try to reach & mimic by taking drugs. Moreover, endogenous T produced naturally by a girl or woman's ovaries & adrenals is not at all the same as the exogenous, artificial T mass-produced in factories by Big Pharma.

Sure, but this is what trans men take to pass and to be mentally healthy and not be dysphoric. It's no different than me taking my anti-depressants, ADHD and blood pressure meds.

[–]MarkTwainiac 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

trans men taking T to physically transition is not abusing T.

It's no different than me taking my anti-depressants, ADHD and blood pressure meds.

WTF?

How old are you that you are on all these drugs? At what age did you start them?

You seem to have no idea how any of these very different drugs work or how each on of them came to be on the market.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

I know how these drugs work and yes they were prescribed in consultation with a doctor by doing actual tests and these drugs have helped me immensely. Without my ADHD meds I would have no job because I wouldn't be able to concentrate at all and without the SSRIs I would be laying in bed all day.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I mean this as gently as possible but that’s not how the drugs work. That’s the effect they have. Twain is asking if you understand the drug mechanisms or their history.

Like, do you know what an SSRI is?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 3 insightful - 9 fun3 insightful - 8 fun4 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

Yes it produces serotonin.

[–]MarkTwainiac 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Genderbender, the fact that you think an SSRI drug "produces serotonin" shows you don't understand. Such drugs do not produce serotonin, they inhibit/delay the uptake or re-absorption of serotonin in/by nerve cells.

The acronym SSRI stands for selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor. If these drugs produced serotonin, they'd be know by the acronym SP, short for serotonin producer.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. No it does not.