What is a woman

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Social construct is your answer to everything.

What’s not inherently different?

What’s your reasoning for any of this?

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 9 fun2 insightful - 8 fun3 insightful - 9 fun -  (28 children)

Nominalist remember? All categories are social constructs, so yeah it tends to feature heavily in my thought processes

I didn’t say anything was inherently different.

The logical implications of nominalism

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Idk why I ever bother.

For your benefit, you are one of very few people that live according to a 14th century philosophy that’s largely abandoned.

Explain yourself properly or just..dont half-engage and act like nominalism is common knowledge and a normal view of the world.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 9 fun2 insightful - 8 fun3 insightful - 9 fun -  (20 children)

Not really. Post structuralist philosophies advance many of the ideas of nominalism, and nominalism itself is still an extant position in philosophy.

I’m sorry, I just can’t bring myself to commit to the effort of educating you all on nominalism when it will achieve nothing. It just seems like wasted effort

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

But I’m rude when I say idk why I bother with you and your nominalism. Jfc dude.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 10 fun1 insightful - 9 fun2 insightful - 10 fun -  (18 children)

I mean yes? Also way to misgender me when you get frustrated.

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 15 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

how can he misgender you when women don't exist since it is just a socially constructed category? Your gender doesn't exist, it's just a social construct. Your sense of being misgendered is a social construct you created. I'm not sure you exist. I imagine a series of static electricity discharges ran down a keyboards on a computer somewhere and created this account, created the random set of letters "Heimdekledi" and continues to create these incoherent posts.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Heim is deliberately inconsistent with the nominalism. Things heim doesn’t like are real, but women are just abstract ideas. Dehumanising with a philosophical excuse of ‘but humans don’t real :)’

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I think you give the static electricity that created that account too much credit. To leap form a semi-reasonable idea about categories and language, that as used by people reflects potentially unshared assumptions about definitions and unshared assumptions about how the world works along with limits on knowledge, to the idea that some words we use do not point to real and uniquely discernible things in the real word, or to the idea that there is no real word, is just babyish. These people must be spoon fed food and pretend some how that they endure. But this account we speak of takes it further by imposing their own fiction to replace what would be observable. Sex is real. Even plants have two and only two sexes, even self pollinating plants like corn. Let the non-binary people identify as a can of corn.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Preaching to the choir and the choir thinks you’re taking ~them~ too seriously.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 9 fun2 insightful - 8 fun3 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

Insults. Reported

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    [–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Can you be more specific about when and where I misgendered someone? I would not want to amend the wrong part of my comment.

    [–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[M] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Hi FlippyKing! I reread your comment and I had misunderstood the subject in your first sentence. Sorry for the confusion. You are fine!

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Dude is gender neutral. I call my sister dude. I’m not using it in a gendered sense. Anyway, misgendering is just a social construct.

    Lol I’m rude for expecting more than one word answers but you’re not rude for saying explaining it to us is worthless?

    [–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

    Dude can be gender neutral, but plenty of people don’t use it in such a way. I’ll keep in mind that you do.

    I didn’t give one word answers, I gave a multi sentence answer. It’s not worthless, I just think that there is a 99% chance that it won’t help based on my prior attempts to do so. And Im depressed and barely get on the sub anymore so it just feels like a pointless exercise. Besides you don’t need me to find out about this stuff if you really cared to.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Rude. Take care and I hope you Feel better though. Depression sucks no matter how you feel about gender.

    [–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks

    [–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

    I mean, kind of rude. I answered your questions honestly.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You answered in the laziest way possible. See the edit.

    [–]whoamiwhowhowhowho 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    All categories are social constructs

    I'm new here, so pardon if you've answered this before. Does this view affect how you live life in ways unrelated to gender identity? If I understand correctly, you don't just think "man," "woman," "male," and "female" are social constructs; you would also say the same about "human," "barn," "oxygen," etc. How does this cause you to interact with the world differently from someone who is not a nominalist?

    [–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

    I like to think that it helps me avoid drawing generalizations about circumstances and to try to remain humble about the limitations of my human viewpoint. It also influences my religious views as I mostly Identify as a buddhist and agree with the teaching that all things are empty of intrinsic existence and nature.

    [–]whoamiwhowhowhowho 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    How does it affect your everyday life in specific ways, though? Believing "man" and "woman" are social constructs has a clear impact on what you believe about trans women and trans men, how you spend some of your time (interacting on this forum), and many of your choices about your clothing, medical care, identity, and other aspects of life if you are trans yourself (I got the impression you are but not sure). It leads you to think of these two groups (man and woman) in a vastly different way from the majority of humanity throughout history and to act accordingly. Since it has such a profound impact on your understanding of two words that most people take for granted, what about nominalism leads you to interact with the world differently in other ways? I'm asking because I doubt a philosophy like that would have radical effects in one subject area and not others. I wouldn't say not generalizing, trying to be humble, and being a Buddhist are particularly associated with nominalism, so that's why I'm digging a bit here.

    [–]usehername 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Postmodernism is a hell of a drug.