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[–]SnowAssMan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You refuse to admit that upbringing influences identity. You never once addressed the other social identities I mentioned. You can pretend you answered it but you never did. Here is the unanswered question yet again: do all the social identities not exist, or only gender identity?

[–]BiologyIsReal 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've already said multiple times that women and men are socialized differently, but sex is the relevant part for identity (although I must I don't share current obsession with the concept of identity). But if you want to talk about unanswered questions, here are the questions you didn't answer:

  1. What are really the differences between a boy who was subject to unnecessary medical procedures and raised as a "girl" because he losed his penis, and a boy who was subject to unnecessary medical procedures (although at different times) and raised as a "girl" because he liked the wrong toys at, for instance, age 3? Why just one of them have a "female gender identity" when they are both living a lie imposed by sexists adults who think they are better off as "girls"?

  2. How do you explain males with 5α-reductase-2 deficiency who are mistaken as girls at birth and who adopt a male identity after puberty?

  3. How thinking that anyone raised as a girl (whether or not they are female) has a female "gender identity" regardless of outcome because they were raised that way is not circular logic?