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[–]MarkTwainiac 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I hear that what women experience is more a sense of status and confidence that comes with being sexually attractive. It's more akin to the female version of men flexing in the mirror.

But the topic here is autogynephilia, right? From what Anne Lawrence, Blanchard and J Michael Bailey have written, what AGPs do a lot in front of their mirrors isn't "flexing." It's jerking off whilst dressed & "dolled up" in the attire and accoutrements they wear to help them imagine themselves as women.

I have no scientific sources to back this up, but from being a woman for a long time, knowing lots of women and asking many women, I am pretty confident that masturbating in front of mirrors is not customary female behavior.

[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (8 children)

I have no scientific sources to back this up, but from being a woman for a long time, knowing lots of women and asking many women, I am pretty confident that masturbating in front of mirrors is not customary female behavior.

I mean it surprised me but it seems to go on more than I expected by all kinds of people.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/search?q=masturbation+mirror&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all

https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/kxql1p/i_got_turned_on_looking_at_my_nude_reflection_but/

[–]MarkTwainiac 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Reddit is your go-to source on female behavior? You can't be serious, LOL.

I actually have studied the invention/evolution and proliferation of looking glasses, the "mirror behaviors" humans evince, and "mirroring." So how come mirror masturbation has never been mentioned in any novels or memoirs written by women, or in any work about women's sexual behaviors like the Hite Report?

[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

So how come mirror masturbation has never been mentioned in any novels or memoirs written by women, or in any work about women's sexual behaviors like the Hite Report?

Indeed. How come I can find casual references to it very quickly when it isn't mentioned in academic work?

Are these people in reddit fake?

Or is there shortcomings in the work you are referencing?

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Are these people in reddit fake?

If the weirdly high incidence of non-female "lesbian" Redditors is any indication . . .

[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

There possibly are a higher number of trans people on reddit.

I still think there are examples of women masturbating with mirrors. I do not believe they are all fake. What's going on? I don't have to equate that all with some kind of agp. It's just there.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I wasn't even thinking of trans Redditors -- just boys/men larping as "female" account holders. Reddit's . . . unreliable.

No mirrors, but this classic essay often comes up in GC discussions of the female erotic experience.

[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks I'll take a read. But a lesbian is surely going to have a different preference and experience of the erotic, no?

There will be some overlap and some differences, more than the basics of orientation.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here she talks about embodied erotica moreso than sex. IME a lot of women relate to what she describes regardless of their orientation.

[–]worried19 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Possibly TMI, but I have done this on a few occasions. It was not because I was turned on by any part of my body. It was because I was turned on by the idea of watching something going in and out of my vagina like a penis would. Basically I was fantasizing about intercourse.