GC: Why is there more focus on trans women than trans men?

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[–]divingrightintowork 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Why would we care what other women do with their selves, or if they don't want to call their selves women anymore? Though if men have issue with women invading their intimate spaces, say women wearing shirts that say things like "three hole faggot," flooding gay bars and complaining about the transmisandry... we will stan for them and support them in keeping their spaces sex segregated and hope they'll do the same for us.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (13 children)

But GC feminists often say men's issues are not feminist issues, talk about how awful AMAB men are and don't defend men. Yet when trans men are "infiltrating" cis men's spaces, suddenly GCs stick up for them. I thought men's issues are not feminist issues? It just shows one of their main goals is to be anti-trans.

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

But GC feminists often say men's issues are not feminist issues, talk about how awful AMAB men are and don't defend men.

Yes of course men's issues are not feminist issues, LOL. Feminism is for and about female people.

You also seem to have a very sex stereotypical view of "GC feminists" that makes it impossible for you to see that many of us have all sorts of loving relationships with men (fathers, uncles, brothers, colleagues, allies, neighbors, chums, sex partners, spouses) and a good number of us are mothers of boys & men.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (11 children)

But I never see GCs speak out about other men's issues, like men not being taken seriously when they're abused or BPD in men. This is the only men's "issue" they are in solidarity with men.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Because that’s not an issue for women or one we can solve. Why would feminism, a movement for female people, focus on solving issues that effect men and are largely caused by men?

Why do you ignore the fact that feminism is not about men’s rights any more than it is about the rights of goddamn chickens.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (8 children)

Then trans men "infiltrating" men's spaces is also not a women's issue or a conceen for feminism.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

So we shouldn’t have empathy but we should fight to protect men from other men. Or are we banned from caring about things that aren’t feminism? You realise we are all multi faceted people capable of thinking about more than one thing, right? Do you think we’re a bunch of simpletons who can’t have more than one thought train?

Again, you gonna answer anything else or continue to ignore questions that you find difficult to answer? You’re bizarrely selective about what you will and won’t respond to.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

So we shouldn’t have empathy but we should fight to protect men from other men. Or are we banned from caring about things that aren’t feminism? You realise we are all multi faceted people capable of thinking about more than one thing, right? Do you think we’re a bunch of simpletons who can’t have more than one thought train?

But why is the only men's "issue" GCs seem to care about is trans men "infiltrating" men's spaces, but they don't other men's issues?

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Because that’s one issue that’s not caused by other men, it’s one that’s caused by genderist bullshit like saying homosexual men are bigoted oppressors for not being attracted to the vulva.

Answer me. Do you think we’re a bunch of simpletons who can only think about one thing? Why do we need to care about all men’s issues to be able to speak about homophobic women being shitty to gay men?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (3 children)

Because that’s one issue that’s not caused by other men, it’s one that’s caused by genderist bullshit like saying homosexual men are bigoted oppressors for not being attracted to the vulva.

It is caused by other men since trans men are men. Even this response shows GCs are ainly about fighting transgenderism.

Answer me. Do you think we’re a bunch of simpletons who can only think about one thing?

No.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But I never see GCs speak out about other men's issues, like men not being taken seriously when they're abused or BPD in men. This is the only men's "issue" they are in solidarity with men.

Maybe that's a reflection on your choices of whom you see and hang out with.

Many of us older women who are GC did activism and hands-on care for gay men, hemophiliac men and IV drug-using men during the AIDS crisis.

If you look into the history of how public attention came to be brought to issues like child abuse, child sex abuse and autism in the 1970, 80s and 90s, you'll find that many "GC" people fought just as hard for male people as for female people.