Yes, I know that Grimm and Adams - young females with a huge amount of internalized misogyny, homophobia especially against lesbians, and self-hatred - have been the lead litigants in lawsuits seeking to end sex-segregated intimate spaces in schools in the US, and to remove the rights of male adolescent students to bodily privacy and freedom of assembly. And that people like Nick H have succeeded in their suits, though not necessarily coz the other side were convinced of Nick's position but coz in the current political climate the school district at issue made a tactical decision to cave and pay the kid off. Groups like the ACLU & HRC use these young female people as stalking horses and wedges.

But trust me, boys & men - the XY kind - do not want these female people in their spaces, they do not see them as members of their own sex, and they do not respect them. On the contrary, they ridicule them, consider them pathetic losers and much worse. If you want to hear true "transphobia," you should hear what adolescent boys, young men & even older men say about people like Grimm in private.

gay trans men who are attracted to other men have the right to be in gay spaces depending on the space and to the extent they transitioned. A trans man who had top and bottom surgery and passes well can enter a gay sauna.

Yeah, they can go there, but no gay men will want to have sex with them, LOL. And their presence will be resented. A female who removes her breasts doesn't become part male by doing so. Female "bottom surgery" alters female anatomy; but even altered, it's not a convincing facsimile of what they're aiming to replicate.

Even in cases of the most "successful" phalloplasty, what female people end up is equipment that in no way is anything like a real dick and balls. Very few female people who have phalloplasties use them to have sex with others, particularly not with gay men; all females get out of phalloplasty is the ability to pee standing up. The vast majority of females who have other kinds of "bottom surgery" are same-sex attracted, so if they have IRL sex with other people, it's with other female people.

These "transmen" really are not doing themselves or the trans cause any favors by trying to horn in on gay male spaces. The fact that you don't get this suggests that you know very little about sex, and are utterly clueless about the nature of male sexuality and gay male sexuality specifically. Gay males are dick connoiseurs; they know the difference between Spam and foie gras full well and can tell right off the proverbial bat.