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Because we answered your questions 10 times already. And you are still continuing to ask them, acting in bad faith and COMPLETELY ignoring if it has any moral justification as well by demanding from intersex people to out our conditions, even thought we already suffering from those conditions and need medical care and in general our life is harder because of this, but you demand to make our lives even worse becase YOU want something. Complete lack of empathy and narcissism - so similar to AGP males.

And if a woman takes hormones, removes her sex organs and a neopenis is implanted in her, she becomes 1) less female, more male, 2) less female, 3) neither male nor female, 4) male and female at the same time.

No, woman is same female regardless of how tall she is or if she has more or less hormones.

"Less female" is extremely offensive and in general such phrases are used as a slurs against intersex people.

Believe in "other sex" and "less female" or "less male" is what was leading to Intersex Genital Mutilation. So spreading this harmful believe is extremely dangerous and will lead to deaths or unneded surgeries, ruining lives of intersex people.

If sex is a spectrum, intersex and regular people can be some of these things, 1) male, 2) female, 3) more female, less male, 4) more male, less female, 5) neither male nor female, 6) male and female at the same time.

And that is why sex is a spectrum is very harmful concept and not needed in society. It will both harm a lot of people in healthcare, it will make much more confusing a lot of parts where sex is important - like sports or healthcare. And it will put a lot of pressure on people to conform.

This will mean that all those patriarchic societal pressures will become justified. So "man with smaller penis" will be less man and laughed out, that tall woman or shorter man will be considered as lesser and not completely a human. And so on. It is very dangerous concept which will only reinfoce gender roles. And it will have no biological justification, because spectrum of secondary characteristics is not making sexes a spectrum - so taller male will still need same treatment as shorter male, but different treatment than taller female. So such categorization makes no sense and only do harm.

Intersex are not male nor female?

Intersex are either male or female. We have told you this DOZENS of times. Why are you keeping ignoring all our answers?

It says that about 10% of XX males do not have sry.

Do not lie. It sayse next:

"In the remaining 10%, X inactivation spreads to include a portion of the SRY gene, resulting in incomplete masculinization."

So it still have SRY gene, just fragmented. Why are you ignoring EVERYTHING that not fitting your narrative? We are answering those questions again and again and again, but you keep asking them, even after they being answered.

This means you are asking them in bad faith. You don't want to hear answer to question, you want to hear what you believe yourself and not the truth.

This person says intersex people are nonbinary, neither man, nor woman, no matter what gametes or genitals they have and are a third sex: https://imgur.com/MERbsgr

No, we are either male or female. And we require treatment like other males or females. I require same pills for most of diseases as other females. My complications are similar to other females and not like males can have. I have Secondary PCOS because of my condition. Women with X0 Turner are losing ovaries - and only other women can lose ovaries, no male can have this problem. And so on.

Will you say that people with Congenital Heart Disease/Disorder are less human, because they have different developed heart? New species? Less male or female? Taller women are new sex? This makes no sense. If woman is taller she still have risk of PCOS, and if male is shorter - he can't have risk of PCOS.

So they are ignoring the definition of sex and just saying "those 0.18% of population are just other, abominations". Thanks!

Of course, if ignore definition of sex, then you can call anything sex. If any differences will mean new sex - then we will have 7.5 bilion sexes, because there does not exist two similar or exactly the same secondary or primary sex characteristics in 2 humans. This just makes no sense.

And why humans are special then? For every single species we are defining sex as this, but for humans we are defining sex as something else. Why? It reminds religion, which are believing that humans are special and following other rules than other universe.

Is sex determined by chromosomes or phenotype?

We answered this question to you 100 times.

I personally answered this question to you at least 3 times. EVERY DAMN TIME YOU JUST IGNORING IT. Maybe caps lock will work?

Sex is what reproductive role organism is aimed to fulfill, what type of genitals organism is aimed to support.

Turtles have same chromosomes for males and females, they are becoming male or female depending on temperature of egg when they were hatching. Yet we still always know who is male or female from them. Many rodents are looking exactly the same for males and females, yet we always know who is male and who is female. Clownfish can change sex depending on which gametes are ready - and yet we always know to WHAT sex clownfish changed right now.

Chromosomes and genitals are used in general for humans because in 99.981% of all cases they are 100% showing sex of a person. And if take in consideration SRY gene and inner sex organs (ovaries, uterus, testes, prostate, etc), then in 99.99991% of cases we can instantly say sex of a person. In the rest of 0.00009% there few more tests are needed to find sex, but even there it is possible.

It is possible to get a combination of uncompleted genes which will lead in sexless development, however - such kids are dying long before birth (at 1-2nd month of pregnancy), because human body can not develop without further instructions on becoming male or female - because the very vital organs are different for us (heart, lunghs, guts, skeleton, muscles, kidneys, etc), so they require different instructions from genes. So no living human is sexless.

And also why CAIS does not challenge binary sex?

Why should they?

If it's both chromosomes and phenotype, then people with CAIS are male and female at the same time.

Please let me know which one is true.

As it was answered at least 5 times to you - no, it is not true. And no, people with CAIS are not like transwomen as you asked in other thread.

People with CAIS in general looking like women, as they are completely insensitive to androgenes, so they started developing as females, yet they are lacking female reproductive organs and they are insensitive and can't react to male reproductive organs they have. Even in sports they are most likely not much stronger than females, but still stronger in some kinds of sports like powerlifting and running because they have different bone structure.

In general, we are accepting people with CAIS as women in society, but as males in healtcare. They were raised as normal and regular girls, everyone thinks they are girls/women, because in everything but inner biology they are like girls/women. So it would be extremely rude and unethical to out them to everyone but closest people and medical personel. Society is not perfect, so people with CAIS would be treated very badly when outed. CAIS happens in up to 0.0005% cases (it is hard estimate, most likely number is lower), but only males are struggling strongly from it, and they are around half of all cases, so CAIS is up to 0.00025% of births, with many not living past puberty in low developed countries.

Someone could have undeveloped female sex organs, but developed male sex organs. If sex is a binary, it would be really difficult to determine what their sex is when their sex organs are so mixed.

No, it would not difficult. Doctors who are studied this can say sex with few tests and can understand what one of 40 DSD conditions it is.

You understand that intersex conditions are extremely big outlier? We are only 0.18% births of population (and many not living long, so 0.18% of births will make it maybe 0.1% adults), and that 0.18% is for 40 different conditions. And only in around 0.0009-0.0018% of conditions genitals are ambigious or SRY gene is moved. That percent is much lower than percent of people born with Congenital Heart Disease/Disorder, lower than people born with 1 leg. So are we saying that people born with CHD are "completely fine and challenging how we define human species"? People born with intersex conditions all require medical treatment, because our conditions are not the norm and because of that we have a lot of health issues, which need to be treated.

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