GC: are there any QT/trans people that you like and admire and QT/trans: are there any GC people you like and admire?

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[–]MarkTwainiac 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Apology accepted!

I do think gender dysphoria is a type of disorder and people that suffer from it shouldn't be automatically labeled as freaks and predators because of it.

I agree. But recognizing and saying someone's sex and pointing out they don't belong in the spaces meant for the opposite sex is not the same as labelling them freaks and predators. At all.

Lots of people have all sorts of mental health disorders and physical disorders. But "gender dysphoria" is the only condition constantly employed by those who sufferer from it as a tool of tyranny and as a truncheon aimed at others, particularly the 51% of the human race who are female. It's the only mental health problem used by males as justification for denying female people basic rights - such as the right to safety, privacy, dignity and peace of mind when attending to our intimate bodily needs in communal settings; the right to fair play in sports; the right to have names - girls, women, female humans - for ourselves that reflect the fact that we have special biology that makes us different to members of your sex; the right not to be forced to lie; the right not to be coerced into playing along with other people's fantasy lives.

Why is this one mental health condition so privileged?

[–]questioningtw[S] 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Do you think with the right kind of mental health care people wouldn't even need to transition? FTMS exist too, so it isn't all MTFS, or o you thik they transition for different reasons?

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My hunch - and hope - is that yes with the right kind of mental health care, a great many people who now identify as trans would learn to better accept their bodies, appearance and the realities of their sex; would develop far healthier, more robust and resilient self-concepts & much improved self-esteem both in amount & durability; would come to understand where their ideas about, and preoccupation with, restrictive sex stereotypes came from; and would be supported to live in as nonconforming a way as they desire and to realize that in vast numbers of communities in countries like the US and UK they can live happy lives with full social acceptance coz huge swathes of the population got used to men wearing makeup & "women's clothes" and to women with very short hair in trousers who look "butch" many decades ago.

Clearly, therapy for someone (male or female) who is same-sex attracted, developed gender dysphoria in childhood & embraced a trans identity as a result of growing up in a homophobic, conservative home and milieu would be different to the therapy required by a heterosexual adolescent or adult male who has adopted an opposite sex identity coz of the sexual fetish known as AGP that he's been reinforcing on the daily by immersion in sissy porn.

My sense is that most FTMs today as in past decades are motivated by the desire/need to escape from being further sexualized and further sexually objectified, by a whole bunch of internalized misogyny, as well as coz they have a host of other mental health issues they're seeking a surefire and easy fix for.

IMO, anyone who sees a therapist - especially those with "gender" issues - would be best served by one who is well versed in the very different ways that males and females are socialized as well as in human biological sex. And who is well-versed in the various psychoanalytic schools as well as in practical therapies like CBT. And of course, the therapist needs to be a kind, compassionate person who is able to see each client/patient as an individual and not bring their own issues & ideologies into the therapeutic relationship. Unfortunately, all the "gender therapists" I've read about do the opposite.