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[–]anxietyaccount8 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

gay men are women/female brains in men's bodies

There are gay men who are totally masculine. I think the people who believe this think that all LGBT people are very GNC. Not always...

Also: "lesbians have male spirits", I mean it doesn't get sillier than this. An image of two women kissing each other is super manly, definitely.

Another reason that GCs don't like to say that, is that GC ideology came from radical feminism. We care about men and women, not "masculinity" and "femininity". What good does it do, for feminism, to say that masculine men and masculine women have more things in common than feminine women and masculine women? We promote female solidarity. I know that I personally have much more in common with a radfem (or any woman!) of ANY orientation than some random gay dude.

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are gay men who are totally masculine. I think the people who believe this think that all LGBT people are very GNC. Not always...

Many gay men are ultra masculine, super macho. In the West, gay culture has traditionally tolerated & made room for males who are not masculine, but it has always centered & most idealized and celebrated men who love being men in men's bodies who love other men in men's bodies: https://youtu.be/YZ1glxX1BiQ https://youtu.be/CS9OO0S5w2k

The majority of gay men fall in the middle of the masculinity-femininity scale. They are neither super macho nor "effeminate." They come across as bog standard or "ordinary" blokes with unremarkable "presentation" & affect. Like TV anchors Anderson Cooper & Don Lemon, Pete Buttigieg, etc. Or Johnny Mathis & Richard Chamberlain back in the 1950s & 60s: https://youtu.be/ES6J8XUIq_4 https://youtu.be/vO4Qt-V4D8Y