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[–]BiologyIsReal 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Add an "I think" or an "in my opinion" in the middle of the phrase if you like it more. Though, honestly, I don't see how this is a controversial view when I've seen countles of QT supporters literally saying "shut up" to anyone expressing the mildest criticism. To say nothing of all those who jump straight to death and rape threats. And what about all the users who have been banned from platafforms like twitter, reddit, etc from saying the wrong think? And what about reddit banning the gender critical, GCdebatesQT, LGBdroptheT, superstraight and several others for "wrongthinking"? And what about Medium u others banning articles or users that are critical of transgenderism? And what about people being fired, doxed, smeared or harrased IRL over this stuff? And what about things like the hashtag #RIP JKR? And what about all the people I've seen saying you should not read JKR's essay because she makes "transphobic" stuff sound as too reasonable? And what about all the people who have been accused of wrongthinking because they follow or retwitted the "wrong" people? And what about some transactivists literally burning books? There is even English proffessor at Bekerley who have advocated stealing and burning books, didn't you know? And what about the "hate speach" laws transactivists would like to pass in many countries? And what about the fact transactivists want to ban any therapy that is not affirming of a transgender identity? And what about compelling speach like mandating people to use prefered pronouns? There is even a law firm, Dentons or something like that, that have adviced transactivists to work behind the scene and not let the general public know what they advocate for.

I'm sorry, but I don't know how to interpret this as anything but QT supporters don't wanting to debate this stuff. But if you have another explanation, I'd like to hear it. If you want receipts about what I'm saying, I cand post a lot of links to prove it.

[–]Greensquidsphone 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

You... Realize you guys aren't the only group attacking a minority group to be removed from these spaces, right? Like I get you think it's different because in your eyes you're morally above-ground but from the outside everyone sees you as another hate group.

I've seen countless gc people on Twitter block trans people who post hard medical data supporting transition, call out bad faith posts, etc. You personal anecdote of seeing the transes saying "shut up" is an anecdote, as in irrelevant.

I'm sure you can give me countless screenshots of trans people sending rape and death threats. I can send countless screenshots of radfems encouraging suicide in sms. Neither is indicative of the group as a whole.

Reddit also banned a lot of alt right subs and other hate groups. The fact that hate groups aren't advertiser friendly but porn is sucks but that's life you know. I'm all for the destruction of capitalism, hit me up.

Oh noooo people are being fired for being vocal about their hatred the humanity. Trans people get fired for being trans. If I got found out at my work id be fired on the spot, so yeah, sorry, really hard to care.

Does jkr sound reasonable? I've never seen anyone say don't read her stuff, again that's not my crowd so take it with a grain of salt but it's transparently using the exact same gc rhetoric we've been conditioned to spot from a mile away, it's nothing special.

I mean your issue is that the world disapproves of your "wrongthink" but I'm sure you're perfectly happy with the censoring of other's wrong thinking. I literally can't help you with that, and the conversation is irrelevant and extremely off topic and your opinions won't ever change so I'm ending the conversation. You're more than welcome to respond again, but I'm not going to keep it going.

[–]BiologyIsReal 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So, your answer to me saying this shows QT doesn't want to debate is basically "but, you're a hate group!"? Just because you think the QT position of "no debate" is justified, doesn't change the fact many QT supporters doesn't want to debate transgender stuff, you know?

By all means, show me the receipt of GC encouraging suicide. I'd like to see actual proof of this for once. I'd happily debate you or anyone else over the "hard data" supporting "transition", though not now, as this is way too off-topic.

[–]Greensquidsphone 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

your answer to me saying this shows QT doesn't want to debate is basically "but, you're a hate group!"?

Nope, not what I said. You're right though, it is off topic, maybe we can make an actual thread later

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You... Realize you guys aren't the only group attacking a minority group to be removed from these spaces, right?

I feel like you don’t understand the bans at all. R/Truelesbians, a space that existed for females exclusively attracted to other females, was banned. R/PCOS and other women’s health subs were banned or had their moderation changed if they weren’t seen as sufficiently inclusive even though only one group of people has to deal with these issues. R/GCDebatesQT was a trans inclusive place, but we were banned for wrongthink even after we went private and invite only. Reddit has made it super clear they hate women. Men’s health subs, gay male subs, and men’s porn subs are allowed to have boundaries, but women’s are not. Rape porn subs and subs about degrading women are allowed to stay up. Porn subs are even allowed to exclude transwomen from women for their allowed content. Reddit does not support women having boundaries or even trans people who don’t agree with their ideology.

[–]Greensquidsphone 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I never went on truelesbians for what I assume are obvious reasons, but glancing at an archive of it, it's literally just another r/gc. Every post in the archive is just 'trans bad' or 'im losing my friends cause I don't like trans people'.

Porn subs are even allowed to exclude transwomen from women for their allowed content.

Guess we have all the proof we need that reddit is anti trans, ladies and gentlemen, we got em. 😎

I'm not gonna deny that large corporations are anti women, because they objectively are, but there's a difference between being banned for just being women and being banned for being an easy to target hate group. r/gc and it's adjacent subs were banned, that included spaces that don't literally put in the title "we hate trans people".

I don't even know why I'm bothering arguing this it wasn't even a hill I care about it was just a throwaway line pointing out how obscure this sub is and how stupid it would be to run out the 4 or 5 trans people here because someone is too upset at trans people existing to say 'they'.

Edit: also it's super off-topic and I won't ever change anyone's mind so I'm not gonna continue this here...

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Guess we have all the proof we need that reddit is anti trans, ladies and gentlemen, we got em. 😎

I guess this is supposed to be cute, but it just oozes misogyny to me. You are literally mocking us. This isn’t that difficult. For Reddit, men (the primary audience for porn subs) are allowed to have boundaries and women are not. It has nothing to do with Reddit being a large corporation and everything to do with misogyny that has been a feature of that platform from the beginning. Women having boundaries is not hate.

[–]Greensquidsphone 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know if cute is the word I'd use, but again, off topic and irrelevant.