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[–]loveSloaneDebate King 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The word “man” means nothing more than adult male human, and I agree if someone finds it offensive it is their own personal issue and the word is not an insult. Same with he/him pronouns. These words are not insults just because someone dislikes them. censorshipment’s most recent post comes to mind...

That being said, it’s very obvious that allowing gc to use factually accurate pronouns is going to cause us to lose the already small number of qt participants. I don’t really understand how this is a rule. We could easily have the rule of compromising and using they/them, especially since it only applies to users here, and when speaking in general it seems we can use the terms that we feel are accurate and since qt can’t call us cis. I feel like this rule effectively shuts down the sub. No qt will come or stay here if we can “misgender”, because they place different meaning on some words and take offense. I think the issue is not the words at all, but rather their internal issues with those words, but that doesn’t really matter since no matter why, it’s going to cost us qt posters.

I agree with the rest of the rules, but no matter how ridiculous I think the pronoun/misgendering thing is, I think it’s pretty obvious that gc needs to compromise and agree to use neutral terms, if we want the sub to be active and have members of both sides.

That being said, I genuinely think most of gc gets this and would use neutral pronouns despite the rule.

[–]Greensquidsphone 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

That being said, I genuinely think most of gc gets this and would use neutral pronouns despite the rule.

That doesn't matter when all it takes is one or two prolific posters to make them decide it's not worth it.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I agree, I’m just saying I think most of us will, and hope that the rule is changed, but if not, couldn’t qt just block the people who won’t compromise?

I gotta say, tho- 2/3 mods who commented here have both said they disagree with this rule, so I’m shocked it’s a rule. I get not making gc call TW she/her, but i wasn’t expecting to not stipulate the compromise of they/them

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I just wanted to clarify I do agree with the idea behind the new rule. I guess I understand where grixit is coming from because I do have strong opinions on the issue of language and transgenderism. I don't think pronouns and the words female, male, woman and man are insults. Also, I don't think using prefered pronouns is a neutral act even when is not done because of compelled speech. That said, I suggested the use of neutral language as a middle ground because I realize we may not have any QT user to debate with if we don't make at least this compromise. Unlike Spanish, my natal tongue, which is a minefield for "misgendering", English is a pretty gender-neutral language. So, I think using gender neutral language to refer to trans identified users could be doable here.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I feel the same way, I was more talking about what masks was saying about the word cis, but I apologize if I misunderstood what you were saying

Eta- got mixed up, thought this was on another thread, but what I meant by “disagree” is that you and peaking both seemed to be saying this rule would cost us qt posters

[–]BiologyIsReal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No need to apologize! I didn't say much on my first comment on this thread, so I felt like I needed to expand on my thoughts.

Who is masks?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Circlingmyownvoid, that was their original username and i always end up using that because it’s what I’m used to, my bad