Looking for both trans and GC people to work towards stopping predators from accessing our respective spaces

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5% of all assaults on women being perpetrated by other women isn’t really that rare.

[–]MezozoicGaygay male 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That is a very-very huge number, where you got it from? And it mathematically not adds up at all: 98-99% of rapists are men, 80-85% of their victims are women and 15-20% are men. So only 1-2% of rapists are female. For them to rape 5% of all female victims - EACH of female rapist need to rape at least 25-50 different women. And most female rapists are raping younger men (in most cases ones they know already, their friends or husbands, not random strangers - as they can't overpower a stranger and need some trust from a men's side), this means that this number must go even more up, as maybe only 0.05-0.1% of all rapists are females on females, so each need to rape 500-1000 different women. And most of female on female rapes are happening with presense of a male rapist as well, or it happening in military or prisons. So this just makes no sense.

Maybe you mean that among those 1-2% rapists who are female, 5% of them raped a woman? This will make it 0.05-0.1% of all rapists. This means that for every convicted 2000 male rapists (or around 10000 unconvicted) there will be one famale who may rape a woman.

And in general - 5%? There not enough lesbians and bisexual women to rape other women that often, and what point for heterosexual woman on doing so? So it makes even less sense here as well.

If you include transwomen - then yes, number can be that big. Most countries are conflating transwomen and women or transwomen with men, so I will go with UK, where they were holding statistics: in the UK there were only 60-65 women in prison imprisoned for sexual assault, including just light sexual harassment, or prostitution, mostly against young men they know personally (out of 3400 female prisoners, so 1.7-1.9% of women, or 0.087% of all prisoners), and 70 transwomen imprisoned for raping a woman (out of 158 transwomen prisoners, or 44%), for men number was 16.5 thousands men imprisoned for rape, only around 3-4 thousands of them for lesser sexual assaults (out of 72 thousand male prisoners, 23% full or 17.5% if counting only rape).

This means that adding transwomen to "women crimes" - will increase amount of "women" rapists by 2 times, and will increase amount of women being raped by "women+transwomen" category by around 40-60 times approximately. Same as recently after counting transwomen as women - in just one year paedo cases of "women" category "in last 10 years" increased by 84%, in other words transwomen did up to 84% of paedo crimes that females did in previous 9 years.

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Source for the 5% number:

https://webshare.law.ucla.edu/Faculty/bibs/stemple/Stemple-SexualVictimizationPerpetratedFinal.pdf

[–]MezozoicGaygay male 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think I remember this report, it had a lot of issues in it, I just don't remember what was there.

And it is only surveys, thought.

the surveys have found that men and women had a similar 12-month prevalence of nonconsensual sex (i.e., 1.9 million women and 1.9 million men were raped or made to penetrate in 2011 data)

There was greater divergence by sex in lifetime reports. In 2011, for example, 19.3% of women reported having been raped in their lifetime. 1.7% of men reported being raped, under the CDC's narrow definition of rape, which is limited to penetration of the victim, and 6.7% of men reported being “made to penetrate” someone (also a form of nonconsensual sex) in their lifetime.

If men and women yearly raped the same amount, but amount of women is growing and men is not, this means that it is same men who are raped every year, while women are every year different ones. Looks like men are mostly living in abusive relationships, while women are randomly raped on streets or by people they know.

female perpetrators (acting without male coperpetrators) were reported in 28.0% of rape/sexual assault incidents involving male victims and 4.1% of incidents involving female victims.

I think you mean this nubmer. So there 4.1%, not 5% as you said, still surprisingly huge number, considering other statistics and that men are 5 times more often reporting sexual violence to police than women.

among men reporting other forms of sexual victimization, 68.6% reported female perpetrators

68.6% of 1.9 millions is 1.3 millions. So 1.3 million men are raped or forced to penetrate by women, while women are perpetuators only in 28% of sexual assaults? This means same that I've said before, that every sexually abusive woman is abusing a lot of men and does this repeatedly with same men year after year. Or this number was to other survey? There are few surveys, which are often not named when used, so it can get confused, some surveys there had just 200-300 people in them.

Among alladult prisoners reporting any type of staff sexual victimization, 80.0% reported only female perpetrators. An additional 5.1% reported both male and female perpetrators

Looks like big percent of female on female sexual assaults are coming from prisons or military, what is expectable.

A 2014 study of 284 men and boys in college and high school found that 43% reported being sexually coerced, with the majority of coercive incidents resulting in unwanted sexual intercourse. Of them, 95% reported only female perpetrators. The authors defined sexual coercion broadly, including verbal pressure such as nagging and begging, which, the authors acknowledge, increases prevalence dramatically.

begging is most common form of coercion against men

Lol.

Sadly coercion against women it is almost never just begging.