Looking for both trans and GC people to work towards stopping predators from accessing our respective spaces

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

We agree that men shouldn't have access to women's spaces, too. But men pretending to be women, faux trans? That's where both groups have problems, in women's spaces and trans spaces.

[–]MezozoicGaygay male 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You can't say which of them are safe or unsafe too. Even homosexual ones can be dangerous to women (my ex-boyfriend as an example - he have very deep hate for women and transitioned because of huge homophobia from parents and internalized homophobia).

And I see no reason why they need any more laws or protections than they already had with old GRA variant. It is already giving sex change in most legal documents, it require surgeries that are making them to "pass" much stronger, and there so few of them, that it is not really a big issue anyways (only 4910 were in UK, for example, while transgender people in UK is more than 500 thousands).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

No one is asking for more laws and legal protections in this group, at least yet. We're still just getting the conversation started. We can at least do what we can to spot and call out the ones we can see as being unsafe. Obviously dangerous people can and do blend in and appear normal and nice, but that shouldn't stop us from trying to stop them. If anything, we should work even harder to find these men.

[–]MezozoicGaygay male 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hm, by "female and trans spaces" you meant two separated types spaces in your post? You are advocating for third spaces then? There should be 4 then, as transmen and transwomen are different.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I've said it elsewhere on here, but yes, all of us are in favor of a third space, honestly just increasing the amount of single stall unisex bathrooms that have already existed for a while and are everywhere already.

[–]MezozoicGaygay male 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've seen such idea before, that instead of big public toilets, put a lot of unisex rooms with single toilet and washbin per room. Idea is decent, but it will take a ton of space and resources to build and maintain them in public spaces.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It may be quite an undertaking that would take a lot of time and money to implement everywhere, but if it keeps people safer and happier, it's worth working towards in my mind :)