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[–]comradeconradical 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Transmen are female, which is why when they talk about something related to female biology, obviously females will relate.

In fact, the fact they complain just shows more of how desperate they are to create distance between themselves and women, which is ill founded as again, they are female just as women are, and all females have their breasts objectified.

I don't understand your transwoman comparison. You post is also cut off, so you might wanna edit it...

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 12 fun1 insightful - 11 fun2 insightful - 12 fun -  (6 children)

Trans men are not female and that is the point. There is a thread on Reddit titled Trans men of reddit, what problems do you deal with that people of other identities don't know or think about?. Here is a quote from a comment:

One final thing I'd like to say has to do with what I call benevolent transphobia, which is when people believe that we are men, sort of, but more like men-lite or "good" men who have been socialized as women, which lends us all of our positive characteristics that they value, and which off-set our negative man qualities. An example of this is when people say that trans men are better than cis men because we understand what it's like to be women - no, honestly, I do not. I only know what it's like to be dysphoric in a woman's body.

Yes there are some experiences exclusive to people AFAB, like periods. But when trans men experience periods, they experience it as trans men and may be different from what cis women experience. For example in this article, a trans man wrote:

A period in and of itself can be uncomfortable for any individual, and being transgender adds another emotional layer to that.

The reason I brought up trans women is because if trans women started replying about not being allowed to show their breasts and trans men called them out, GC would make a post about how trans women are evil, narcissistic, AGP, etc. Yet when cis women do the same thing they get upset when trans men call it out.

This is why I can't stand when GC complains trans women talk over trans men. I mean, if one group is talking over the other it should be pointed out, but when trans men point out GC talking over them, GCs get upset or don't use the criticism to change their ways. Like, don't criticize people for something you do yourself.

I edited my post to finish the sentence that somehow wasn't typed. Thank you for pointing it out.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Trans men are not female and that is the point

If this were true they’d not be complaining about not being able to go topless lmao

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They are not cis men, but the want to go topless like the other men, not like women.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But can’t because of their female bodies? With female breasts? Because they are female?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are men. GCs always talk about the need for female only spaces, so why don't they understand that trans men also need their own spaces.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Since when is tiktok or any other public website exclusively for transmen? And you argue that women don’t want or need any spaces so why do transmen need one so badly but other women don’t?

[–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

But they can/do have their own spaces. I was banned from a FtM sub when I said I didn't identify as trans but looked more manly than they did. I even posted a selfie of myself so they could see my facial hair that grows naturally. I think the title of my post was "I'm a gnc lesbian with facial hair". The butchlesbians sub is polluted with trans women and trans men and nonbinary folks. Why can't "cis" butches have our own space? I'm so fucking tired of reading about "low dose T" and flat chests and women who hate having a pussy.