GC: Do you genuinely desire to have more trans men in public positions (i.e. acting, politics)?

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[–]censorshipment 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't desire to have more women identifying as trans men in existence, period. No, this doesn't mean I want women who believe they are (trans) men to die... this means I want women who believe they are (trans) men to snap the fuck out of that delusion and accept that they are women.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

That's never going to happen. There will always be trans men. They will accept themselves as men, not women.

[–]SnowAssMan 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're describing a recent phenomenon which is mainly only occurring in the West, among the middle-classes. Why would you assume that trans-men will always think of themselves as men?

There is a movie from 1999 called Boys Don't Cry about a girl who wants to pass as a man (based on a real person). At the time she was a girl, nowadays we revise history to make her a he. 1999 wasn't that long ago. In just as little time the pendulum could swing right back again. Maybe once the economy is better & people are less into conformity, then we could see a return to gender abolition instead of gender appropriation.

[–]questioningtw 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am fairly GC and even I think Brendan Teena identified as a man and wanted to live as one. Unlike someone like James Barry who had every reason to disguise their sex because women weren't supposed to be doctors; there was literally no reason for him to live as a man like that. If you read the book the movie was based on, he was in complete denial that he was even female and would lie to everyone and tell them he had an intesexed condition when they got suspicious.