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[–]censorshipment 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I don't desire to have more women identifying as trans men in existence, period. No, this doesn't mean I want women who believe they are (trans) men to die... this means I want women who believe they are (trans) men to snap the fuck out of that delusion and accept that they are women.

[–]Porcelain_QuetzalTabby without Ears 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Cuz all trans men are delusional? Or isn't that the logical conclusion from your statement?

[–]censorshipment 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

🤔 when you believe you're something you're not... ah fuck it.

[–]Porcelain_QuetzalTabby without Ears[M] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Please keep in mind that this sub is for both QT and GC users to debate. This requires some respect for our believes, so blanket calling a side delusional doesn't fly here.

[–]censorshipment 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I used to pretend that my breasts didn't exist. Literally pretended that my chest was flat even though I had double D cups. Was I not delusional in believing my breasts didn't exist? This sub should respect detrans/desist folks' opinions, but it doesn't... didn't on Reddit either... I see nothing has changed.

[–]Porcelain_QuetzalTabby without Ears 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sorry you had to go through that and that you don't feel welcome here. All we ask is for is that you're more mindfull in the way you word your opinios, especially when making blanket statements.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If you felt you were delusional when you were trans, that is your right and I respect your opinion. But don't imply all or most trans men are delusional.

[–]censorshipment 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What's the definition of delusional? I think you all are willfully obtuse and purposely misconstrue. I'm not saying dysphoria doesn't exist... that's real... but the belief that bodies are "wrong" is the delusional part. The belief = the delusion.

Again, dysphoria is real... the mind literally plays tricks on dysphoric folks... but what we believe is not real.

I'm 37 and still have delusional moments of believing I am or should be a man. I literally tell my ex girlfriend to suck my dick, out of anger, and then have to say wait... I'm not a man, I don't have a dick. I have a misogynistic male alter ego that will not die, unfortunately.

Trans folks have called me an "egg" which is basically calling a "cis" person delusional... and I bet that's okay because it's pro-trans. 🙄

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Definition of delusion:

1

a

: something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated under the delusion that they will finish on schedule

delusions of grandeur

b

psychology : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary the delusion that someone was out to hurt him

also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs

2

: the act of tricking or deceiving someone : the state of being deluded

… accused the Bohemian of having practised the most abominable arts of delusion among the younger brethren.

— Walter Scott