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[–]worried19 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Not QT, but it would be different if I believed it was coming from a healthy place. But looking at what's happening in society right now, I'm deeply disturbed. I have to admit I've really been struggling with this news. There's no space in society anymore for women like me. What's the point of trying to remain female? I feel like I should just give up and join them. Except I know it would be the wrong choice.

What I find more upsetting than any individual case is the way this movement insists on rewriting the past. The name Page's parents chose with love for her (and she was a her when she was a baby) is now a "deadname." It's not acceptable to use Page's original name even when talking about the time that she openly and proudly identified as a woman and a lesbian. We have to pretend that Page was always a man and never had any other name. It's just a level of insanity that I can't get behind.

I can't imagine it's healthy for trans people, either. To believe that you are "dead." That everything you were prior to yesterday is "dead." That you're literally a new person with a new sex. It's not logical. It makes zero sense. Transsexuality exists. I do believe that. However, it used to be extremely rare, especially in females, and manifested in early childhood. There is no precedent for what's happening now. I don't believe that Ellen Page as a 5 year old or a 10 year old hated her female body, that she loathed her vagina. If that was the case, there would have been some evidence of it before now.

[–]questioningtw[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I agree...the way she came out was really weird too, it felt like she was guilting people to basically accept her as a man who was always a man, when that is bullshit. She has been a female actor forever, and has been an out lesbian for a long time. Before yesterday her name WAS Ellen Page, Wikipedia rewriting her bio is frankly creepy. I am sorry, but I will never ever be one of those people that thinks just saying you are a man or woman makes you one. I also hate the deadname stuff....your past you was still the past you.

[–]worried19 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The letter was also extremely angry. There was zero talk about Page's gender journey. It seemed more like a political attack. I think Page probably saw the Keira Bell news and decided to lash out. The announcement came just an hour or two after Keira's win. I would guess Page had been planning an announcement anyway, but this was the trigger.

[–]questioningtw[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I do wonder about that. I think this is why it rubbed me the wrong way too. If she were to be like, hey I know you know me as Ellen, but please accept that I am Elliot, I think it wouldn't have been so offputting. Instead it was almost like how dare you see me as a woman, even though you have known me all along as a woman! It is honestly creepy how everyone is not seeing how weird this is.

[–]worried19 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think most people see. They're just scared to say anything. The majority of people still believe that biological sex is real and can't be changed by fiat.

[–]questioningtw[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it is interesting how Reddit, Twitter and Wikipedia are just so cowed into submission.

[–]worried19 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's by design. I'm shocked such a small minority group has so much power over the mainstream media.