QT: What do you think about the AGP model and posts that are documented in itsafetish?

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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I’m not QT, but I am trans. It may be difficult to find QT/NB types to answer. I feel like everyone here is at least like transmed.

AGP is obviously real. I feel like anyone with any experience in trans communities has seen it. I wasn’t aware of it when I was younger, but once I discovered it it explained a lot of people I had met.

It’s tough to get AGPs to acknowledge it though because it stigmatized and having AGP makes them form emotional attachments to the idea of being a real woman somehow and if they acknowledge their AGP, it means that they’re not. They will come up with all sorts of way to rationalize it away. I don’t really try to label people because that usually just upsets them, but it’s usually something you can pick up on easily (there really is like a type).

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having AGP makes them form emotional attachments to the idea of being a real woman somehow and if they acknowledge their AGP, it means that they’re not.

This is really insightful and explains a lot, thanks.

I feel like everyone here is at least like transmed.

While I'm glad of this, it's something that I'd like to understand better. From what I can see, the transmedicalist view is on the basis of the dysphoria first and foremost? Is this correct? I've seen self-admitted AGPs on askAGP expressing that they have severe dysphoria. According to them, AGP can cause dysphoria that is severe enough that people want to transition and it sometimes provides genuine relief. Of course, this is self-admitted, and many of the types that seem to wreak havoc are emotionally tied to not admitting it (as you say.)

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, transmedicalism says you can't be trans if you don't have dysphoria. AGPs say they have dysphoria from being AGP, but I don't know if transmeds agree on whether that is valid or not. Anecdotally, I feel like AGPs who admit their AGP seem to be more considerate and less prone to hurt others (like you say). I feel like ending self-ID and having more gatekeeping might reduce the numbers of AGPs who transition or maybe AGPs could be taught to deal with it some other way. I really do worry about safety because some AGPs are predatory letting them transition puts women and trans people in harms way. I feel like there are no easy answers. :(