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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Im simply trying to have an exchange of ideas as your post requested. You seem however to only want to cast aspersions and presume bad faith.

Because they're legally our spaces too. In a couple generations though you guys will get over it as you realize your fears are unwarranted.

All the trans intersex people must blow your minds then. Tell me, did it never occur to you that getting any of these policies enacted would affect intersex women as well?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don’t presume bad faith. I think you don’t consider how people who aren’t trans are affected and are looking out for trans people’s needs. I understand why, it doesn’t change the sense that trans people and the things that they “need” for their safety and happiness are invasive and undermine female rights and needs. As I said, if I hadn’t been going back and forth with masks, I’d have more patience for you. I can only deal with so much misogyny and narcissism in one day. I’m tired of transwomen and their allies acting like women should just roll over and let them take whatever the fuck they claim they need from us. I really just wish it was enough that not all women want to include and share with transwomen. I wish women saying no was enough for men. It’s not, and I’m not surprised. I just don’t have it in me today to be civil and engage anymore. It’s fucking draining. Women and TW have nothing to do with each other and it’s bullshit that women have no choice but to be pushed aside for the needs of transwomen. Transwomen are not women. Women shouldn’t have to shoulder the burden of protecting them or housing them. The only reason TW get away with it is because they are men lol. Men will always get to do whatever they want to women and take whatever they want from women. I just wish y’all would acknowledge that instead of acting like it’s not the case. And I didn’t ask for an exchange of ideas. I asked for facts.

[–]ColoredTwiceIntersex female, medical malpractice victim, lesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The only reason TW get away with it is because they are men lol.

This even seen in power distributions. Out of 21 trans representatives in USA - 20 are transwomen. Similar distribution around men to women. Same with crimes, transwomen crime statistics is same as of men, and transmen as of women.

Everything stays the same. Socialization and society acceptance is the same as if they weren't trans and stayed of the original identity.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This even seen in power distributions. Out of 21 trans representatives in USA - 20 are transwomen. Similar distribution around men to women. Same with crimes, transwomen crime statistics is same as of men, and transmen as of women.

This! There were a bunch trans people who won seats this election, but they were all TW! Every news outlet was saying it like a victory for diversity though. Please...