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[–]penelopekitty 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It was 'being nice' that got us here. Gave an inch and they took a mile.

[–]LemurLemur[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Should all people approach the advancement of their demographic with this sort of mentality?

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Do you see any difference between advancement of a groups demographic and response to the deliberate elimination of another groups rights?

[–]LemurLemur[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sure. Are you trying to say that, for you, being considerate of others is akin to having your rights eliminated?

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Being considerate does not include giving up female spaces, or accepting the term woman being dehumanised, or accepting males policing my behaviour.

This obtuse line of questioning exact sort of thing many of us are exasperated with and get ‘rude’ about.

[–]LemurLemur[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Doesn't this line

Being considerate does not include giving up female spaces, or accepting the term woman being dehumanised, or accepting males policing my behaviour.

contradict this line?

This obtuse line of questioning exact sort of thing many of us are exasperated with and get ‘rude’ about.

in the first one, you are saying GC is not rude, they're just called that because they don't accept male policing... but in the second line, you're saying "GC is (or can be) rude if they find questions annoying...? Or are you just saying you consider questions like this a part of "tone policing", and thus feel I will consider you rude for how you're responding?

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Gc is not a hive mind. It is a group of individuals. Sometimes people are rude. That’s it.

GC is considered rude because the ideology does not adhere to the socially acceptable view of woman being an identity and our culture is socialised to see women demanding their needs be met as rudeness and men doing it as assertiveness.

How does one contradict the other?

Some women are ‘rude’ out of frustration. Some are naturally ‘rude’. Some do it because women’s rights are more important than being perceived as nice. Because gc is a group of individuals who do not accept gender, not a group who share the same ideals in manner.

I am saying your line of questioning is personally annoying, AND that your particular methods are one of the things frequently done by TRAs and men who do not listen to women, which frustrates a lot of gc people.

[–]LemurLemur[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am saying your line of questioning is personally annoying,

Rats, I was trying not to annoy anyone. It was just something I wondered about. Sorry to bother you.

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It’s fine, I’m easily annoyed. It’s perfectly fine to wonder, I just can’t see what’s confusing about the topic. Blind spots, hey?