Opinions on the "twin studies" of gender identity?

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[–]loveSloaneDebate King 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I honestly have reached a point where I don’t give a fuck about gender identity or any of the ideology. Women are female. Period. Whatever makes transwomen need to transition is irrelevant to females and still has literally nothing to do with us. If they can figure out the root of gender dysphoria that’s great, but it changes nothing for me. Transwomen are men and will never be women, whether gender identity is real or not.

That being said, I feel like there’s too many other mental health concerns present in most trans people that aren’t being talked about. There’s also a lot of history of sexual trauma or childhood trauma of some sort, even homophobia (internal and or external) can play a part (obligatory not all trans people). It’s sad and shitty to me that this is ignored or dismissed so often. I honestly feel like most trans people have a host of other mental health issues, regardless of any possible scientific explanation for gender identity.

I think sex/gender dysphoria is real. I think gender identity is a bullshit, pseudo explanation to avoid acknowledging that it’s a mental condition.

My rebuttal is simply that no matter what, sex is not mental. Women are of the female sex. It’s not complicated, just because some men want it to be.

[–]DistantGlimmer[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I understand your frustration and agree with you. Unfortunately I don't think it's going away anytime soon so I guess I was happy that they at least seem to be moving away from the horribly sexist gendered brain crap. But yes, maintaining the physical reality of sex is the most important thing right now and a battle we're really losing here badly.

I think what you said about the other conditions trans people seem to display is interesting, in addition, I've heard they display a lot of mental and personality disorders that don't really get looked at because validation and affirmation.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel like it’s very obvious that at the very least, narcissism is rampant in the trans community, even amongst “non binary” people.

I just think there’s way too many ways for someone to identify as trans and way too many trans people that disagree with each other. There’s still trans people who say you don’t even need to have dysphoria and even some who say gender identity isn’t a thing. So I guess for me, it would be wonderful if somehow we could understand what causes sex/gender dysphoria- like- the actual mental disconnect and the extreme aversion/discomfort with one’s body, but I still can’t take the idea of gender identity seriously. To me, if someone’s brain is more like that of the opposite sex, I don’t get where any discomfort or need to change anything about themselves comes? Wouldn’t they just have a slightly different brain from most people of their sex? My female brain doesn’t tell me to be feminine or submissive, or to like pink and twirly dresses. the article still doesn’t make any of the things trans people say about their sense of identity make sense for me.