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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (37 children)

In what ways do GC people make it impossible for you to access care?

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (31 children)

Gc feminists have all the political power and pass acts allowing people to be fired for being trans. It’s not homophobic old men who think they are all just the most gay and who are in power doing this though. It’s only gc women.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

The ones arguing for it are GC feminists. Like foresarters right to insult trans people suit.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Right, that’s all the gc feminists that are in parliaments. Totally. It’s all women’s fault.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

All the cruelty is our fault too. Every day we are physically attacking and killing transwomen of color with our bigger physical strenght and political force! I am still can't understand why all blame is on women, all attacks are on women - when for transwomen real problem and threat are men?

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely yes we are solely responsible for the murders committed by men. Because they’re animals with no self control it is up to women to do something to protect the males who are hurt by this. Hens must always let the smallest fox into the coop.

Having self interests is against human decency if you’re a woman. Because underneath all the layers of justification these people gather is the ugly little root of women not being human.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

You really should stop conflating your from be political stance with all women. Not everyone wants trans women to be second class citizens with no rights and no care.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Gc women dont want that either. We just want to keep our rights as women. All the fault in your claim does lie with women. If you don’t want people getting the message that women are to blame for some males sadness don’t say it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

You not all women, you specifically, are the ones actively pushing policies forbid to have no rights and no care. It’s not “women” it’s gc.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

I wasn’t speaking for all women, I said the blame goes all on women. As in no blame is put on the men in politics who make the bills harming you.

What policies am I pushing that harm you over in America? None. You gonna guess my voting habits and get them wrong by saying I must vote against transgender interests? Cause that’s wrong too.

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You actively argue for our rights to be stripped and is to not have access to care.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Show me where I do that. Like, the actual quote saying transgender people don’t deserve rights. Cough those up.

Unless you’re actually just putting words in my mouth once again because you don’t listen and go on a big tangent about giving preteens osteoporosis so they’re aesthetically more pleasing to the public, and women simply must shield transwomen from men because there’s no other option at all ever.

Accusing people of shit they ain’t doing won’t help you.

Love how you totally ignore the point about politicians I raised as soon as there was nothing left to nitpick at. Why don’t you reply to actual points?

[–]kwallio 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

your from be political stance

WTF does this mean?

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    [–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[M] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Removed for misgendering. It’s against the rules to misgender other users.

    [–]loveSloaneDebate King 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I think they just meant “your political stance”. Just a typo

    [–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

    Just look at this thread.

    Doctor who chops off TiFs’ breasts calls herself “Tit Wizard” - where is the outrage?

    Why should there be outrage? Adults can do what they want with their bodies.

    [–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Because the surgeon is being crass and casual about something serious like surgery. Duh.

    Also, wtf does this have to do with anything? Why do you always throw on random shit about transmen when they aren’t relevant?

    [–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    But that thread is full of comment's like:

    Mutilating females like that should be illegal.

    Again. Adults can do what they like with their bodies. There are sub comments, which talk about gender affirming surgeries being given to young children, which GC makes a good point. But adults can do what they want with their bodies.

    The sweeping statements you are making here are based on a subset of young people with "gender dysphoria," namely those who developed GD in childhood and persist after puberty. These people are are and were almost exclusively male!

    Ahh yes. Natal females never have gender dysphoria. And GC says they don't deny dysphoria.

    Most people who have mental illnesses that emerge during or after puberty (ADHD, depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc) don't grow out of it either. But we don't treat them by telling them to lean into their manic episodes, hallucinations, and suicidal thoughts.

    Right now the only current treatment for severe dysphoria is transition. I have bipolar and ADHD and I will tell you it’s not the same.

    You sound as if you're considering transition; I don't know how to put this any other way but please don't.

    While I do think people who would like to go through extreme body modifications should be certain this right for them, I am sure most people are doing that, and the PP of that thread would do that if they are considering this.

    I'm guessing that even the "older" women you mention who want to transition, are still young enough to have grown up in the post-Queer Theory, liberal feminism culture of violent porn, sexting, plastic surgery on demand, anal sex, hook up culture, BDSM - and they want none of it.

    ...

    Extreme body modification as a result of not being able to cope with modern womanhood (and I don't blame you for that) is not the answer.

    Dysphoria has NOTHING to do with modern womanhood or wanting to escape misogyny. Most trans men repeatedly stated they did not transition due to misogyny, yet GC continues to speak over trans men, replacing trans men's words with their own.

    Accepting yourself, and the body that houses you, reaching out to other women, working with them to fight for respect and rights for women, will help you find happiness a thousand times more than undergoing dangerous, traumatic surgery to make yourself a facsimile of a man.

    Many people with dysphoria won't be happy until they transition.

    [–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Ma’am this is a Wendy’s.

    Wtf does this have to do with the discussion at hand and why do I in particular need to answer for what other people say?

    The fuck is wrong with you?

    [–]catoborosnonbinary 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I was all for her right to free speech until she did it in her workplace.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Many are pushing for a full ban on transition. Many others are pushing for it to be considered elective procedures and therefore removed as a benefit from insurance plans. This renders it inaccessible to most trans people.

    [–]yousaythosethings 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Well tbf trans organizations are speaking on both sides of their mouths by pushing for self-ID and saying no transition is needed and then also saying that facial feminization surgery and breast implants should be covered by insurance. Do you think those things should be covered by insurance as non-elective?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Ffs no, breast aug probably not other than in reconstructive cases (mastectomies due to cancer, trauma repair etc.)

    I’m more talking about hormones, top surgery for trans guys, and bottom surgery.

    [–]worried19 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Many are pushing for a full ban on transition.

    Many? I would say this is an extreme view. Is there some GC organization that has made a public statement saying they believe there should be a full ban on medical transition? I certainly wouldn't support anything like that, and I doubt the majority of posters here would, either.

    [–]catoborosnonbinary 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Some GC activists have lobbied against taxpayer funding for gender services.