QT: If anorexics identify as underweight, is it wrong to give them weight-restoring treatment?

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[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Are you deliberately missing my points or what?

I said recognising a disorder is not condemnation of neuroatypical people. Not that you’re condemning anyone.

Please actually read what I’m saying.

Your experiences and posts on ASD forums is still not actually a representative of the majority of people with ASDs regardless of what books you read. Do you truly believe that the majority of autistic people read those books or post on those forums? That’s legitimately ignorant of how we actually live. This is offensive. You are incorrectly mispreresentimg the experiences and needs of a group of people that you are not a part of. I’m aware of people being treated poorly due to ASDs but this does not make it not a disorder.

Are you seriously still going to sit there and inform me about my own fucking disorder? Do you not comprehend how selfish and rude that is?
How fuckin dare you. You’re not our advocate just because you put yourself on the back and listen to a couple of people you agree with. Advocates don’t speak for people or over them and this is all you’re doing here. Go pick some other cause and leave us alone, it would be more helpful that telling actual autistic people that they are wrong about their own fuckin autism.

Autism speaks is entirely irrelevant why do you bring up random nonsense instead of addressing actual points given? Are you incapable of understanding what I’m saying?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I personally feel insulted when people say stuff like "lead poisoning causes learning disabilities". Don't get me wrong, lead poisioning should be prevented, but no one says things like "lead poisoning causes red hair". This is because people think there is nothing wrong with red hair. The same way nothing is wrong with learning disabilities. It's just another human characteristic.

Your experiences and posts on ASD forums is still not actually a representative of the majority of people with ASDs regardless of what books you read. Do you truly believe that the majority of autistic people read those books or post on those forums?

Where can I find opinions that are representative of the majority of autistic people?

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You can’t. So you need to stop speaking for people with ASDs.

Lead did cause learning disabilities. It’s extremely toxic and damages the brain. Idk why you hate facts so much and perpetuate nonsense. It’s like getting offended over someone saying thalidomide causes malformations or ameliorated limbs.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

It's not the facts, it's the implication that there is something wrong with learning disabilities. Have you ever heard people use the phrase "risk of red hair" or "risk of blue eyes" as if there's something wrong with those characteristics. On NYC's [child & adolescent health examination form](www.schools.nyc.gov/docs/default-source/default-document-library/ch205-child-adolescent-health-examination-form-english), they use the phrase developmental or learning problem as if there is something wrong with learning differences. There are tons of reasons to prevent lead poisoning. Learning differences is NOT one of them.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Red hair does not potentially limit someone or cause them hardship. A severe learning disorder or cognitive disability does. That’s obvious.

This is also entirely irrelevant to me correcting your idea that autism is not a disorder.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

My learning disability never caused me hardship. Society caused me a lot more hardship.

Yes, I have limitations. I struggled with math a lot in school. But we all have limitations.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Your experience is not universal and you do not get to negate the experience of anyone who does feel their disability has impaired them or caused them hardship.

It gets far harder than struggling with maths for many people and you are essentially erasing their experiences because they don’t match your own.

If you really want to advocate for people you need far more empathy and listening ability. So far you have spoken for and over people whilst ignoring the people you are claiming to support.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Do you have a learning disability? No. You do not get to speak for people with learning disabilities or explain my disability to me.

[–]CatbugMods allow rape victim blaming in this sub :) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes. Auditory processing disorder and dyscaculia. Why do you get to speak over me about autism but I can’t discuss the experiences you share with others? Why do you presume my experiences? Why does your offence matter and mine doesn’t?

What authority do you supposedly have? What point do you actually have? You ignore every question asked if you and bring up random trails unrelated to the original post.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm saying learning disabilities shouldn't be cured or prevented. I won't speak to you about your autism but I will speak about learning disabilities.