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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Accept that women are a seperate group to which transwomen do not belong.

Do you feel like it’s bad or a boundary violation if someone who isn’t female passes as woman? I’m just trying to understand.

I’m not that familiar with Blaire White, but comments like that are very offensive and hurtful to me. Transhumanists and people with those tendencies all just seem like creepy narcissists, but sadly they seem common in online trans spaces.

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At the end of the day if a man passes as a woman and I don’t know, I don’t know. I’m not happy about it in theory but it’s something that happens and at the end of the day when people read you as a woman it’s just easier to use the women’s loo and I’m not gonna fight anyone about that.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It is a boundary violation imo. Absolutely yes.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh dear! Okay, thanks..

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I understand that there’s risk to outing yourself- my whole thing is, does the risk of outing yourself or othering yourself matter more than the personal boundaries of others? I feel like so many issues concerning transwomen come down to dismissing or respecting the boundaries of others. I also think the goal of trans people should be acceptance of trans people rather than concealment, but that’s a different conversation.

Eta- a TW friend being upfront with me would indicate to me that they respect my boundaries. Me finding out somehow that a friend of mine is a TW would indicate to me that they disregard those boundaries. This is just my perspective tho

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I understand that there’s risk to outing yourself- my whole thing is, does the risk of outing yourself or othering yourself matter more than the personal boundaries of others? I feel like so many issues concerning transwomen come down to dismissing or respecting the boundaries of others.

I don’t know... I hadn’t really thought that was violating a boundary for being perceived a certain way. It’s weird to think about because it not something you are actively doing, it’s happening because you are not actively making it not happen (if that makes sense).

I also think the goal of trans people should be acceptance of trans people rather than concealment, but that’s a different conversation.

Yeah, I feel that is like a major conversation. I’ve always appreciated that I was able to not be visible (and even not really think about it) because I feel like it helped someone like me have a better life, especially years back when there really no push for acceptance.

Eta- a TW friend being upfront with me would indicate to me that they respect my boundaries. Me finding out somehow that a friend of mine is a TW would indicate to me that they disregard those boundaries. This is just my perspective tho

Thanks for explaining! I only have one experience of coming out to a friend (and that’s an odd story) so I don’t know how everyone feels or would feel about it.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess I feel like I’m thinking about it from the perspective of the person who would be being mislead (intentionally or not), not the person who would be concealing (intentionally or not). Again, there may be some people who feel differently, I just feel that personally, I think it would feel invasive and, depending on what was discussed, borderline voyeuristic. I get how a TW wouldn’t see it that way, but I can’t help but see it that way.

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White is an extremely right wing trans woman with a rep for bashing other trans women and trying to leverage the fact she is attractive with why she is an okay trans women unlike the rest.

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Go say this to the tras who support him then.

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What?

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Go tell tras who support and love blaire that he’s an asshole, not us. We know he’s a pos. Inform your peers of how he’s harmful to women and to transwomen.

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I... I literally just told a trans woman who didn’t know who she was that she was a right winger with bad behavior. That’s what you responded to.

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Cool. Go do that more in trans spaces.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay, thanks for explaining! Misogyny going with being right wing makes sense. Right wingers also love people who criticize in their own group if it’s a minority one, so... 🤷‍♀️

[–]catoborosnonbinary 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Blaire White is also transmed and has had plenty of nasty things to say about nonbinary people. Despite that, I am often entertained by her and agree with some of her positions.

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Transmed doesn’t have to be exclusive of non-binary people. I myself am transmed but have no issue with dysphoric non-binary people.

That being said she is a mouthpiece for conservative ideas and has engaged in full on purposeful misinformation like just this month when she told her followers (incorrectly and obvious given even a tiny bit of research) that Janae Croc competed against women leading to Janae being harassed for something she never did.

[–]catoborosnonbinary 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I saw snippets of Blaire's apology, so she seems to have remorse.