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[–]IceColdLover[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If trans people have sex role distress most of the time rather than sex dysphoria, then the solution is to eradicate gender roles as a requirement in society and then this issue will go away.

[–]Spikygrasspod 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That is certainly what radical feminists like Raymond have been suggesting since 1979, yes. Others, such as Stock, think that expectations and norms will always accumulate around men and women, and the most we can hope for is to make gender norms vastly more flexible and less harmful.

If someone is distressed by harmful, rigid gender roles, then we should expect a more feminist society to involve fewer instances of gender dysphoria. And if we got rid of the harmful Othering of women, transition might be less appealing to certain men with AGP. But if someone is attracted by the gender role of the opposite sex, regardless of the actual content of those norms, then transgender would presumably persist as long as differentiation between men and women does.

[–]IceColdLover[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, and what I want is a world where gender roles do not exist, which means the only people needing to "transition" in any way would be those with dysphoria related to their biological sex, which would then be considered a mental illness and receive anti-discrimination protection as one, no different than people with depression, ADHD, and so on.

[–]Spikygrasspod 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A world without gender roles. That's the dream!

I guess there would still be sex differences, though, so people could still develop self-directed paraphilias around e.g. menstruation, pregnancy, and lactation. It would be much harder to justify why other people should play along, though, if there were no gender roles.

[–]IceColdLover[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. If someone has sex dysphoria I would want to be compassionate to them but if they simply want to wear heels and dresses then I'd say, you go do that, I support you 100% but it does not make you a woman.