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[–]DistantGlimmer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'd see the idea as "men dressing up as women" as a kid played for laughs(70s/80s). I can't remember how old I was when I became aware hat some did that as a serious thing. Teenager probably but I remember hearing about that case the later made a movie of about young transsexual FtM who was murdered on the news and thinking it was so awful and heartless how they were treated and how people talked about transsexual people in connection to that like the really were subhuman. It really was a different time back then. When I was older I did some research about it because I thought I may even be a bit that way but it was totally different back then no one said they were women but you had to commit to "living as a woman full time" while still acknowledging your maleness. It wasn't something that fit me at all. Presumably helped some people with severe dysphoria though

[–]worried19[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That reminds me of the movie Stardust. There was a cross-dressing pirate, but he was portrayed as a gay man. And definitely a man, no suggestion he was trans. I saw that when I was 12.

What was the movie about the murdered trans man you mentioned? Google says probably Boys Don't Cry?

[–]DistantGlimmer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

yeah, that's the movie.Very sad story.

[–]worried19[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It was made in 1999, looks like. I wonder what modern trans activists think of it. Doesn't seem like it would fully meet their standards.

[–]DistantGlimmer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The case it was based on happened in 1993, here's the wiki about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Teena

It was heavily covered even in Canada and it did a lot to raise awareness of these issues. I think it may have been the first time I saw trans people portrayed in the media in a mainly positive light as well as the first time i really became aware of FtM people.

But as I said I also remember a lot of disgusting backlash to it from some people around me which I couldn't understand even at the time. Why someone would be so hated by some people just for being a little different (and the fact that I was pretty gender non-conforming even at that time probably made me sympathize with them more).