There are problems with requiring bottom surgery. For starters, the ethical ones. Is it really ethical to require bottom surgery when the outcomes are so incredibly poor, even with the best potential patients. The worst potential patients, won't even have enough penis tissue to make a "inverted sock" such as happened to Jazz. With other patients, like transmen, the "penis sausage" frequently rots from the inside and has to be amputated. And then there's the cost. As soon as it's required, only the well off trans can afford it, and so the poorer trans are automatically excluded. Do we make insurance pay for it? But we don't have a national health insurance program like they do in the UK, so who pays for it? And what if the trans can't afford insurance?

Do I really feel like typing out all the other problems? Just with requiring bottom surgery? Dear god.

As someone else said, the law doesn't do well with exceptions. Laws need to have a bright line written in them, or everybody from the traffic cop to the judge gets confused. So you either let them all in, or you keep them all out. And then of course, you'd have to have the "panty police" check everyone's genitalia configuration at the door to the ladies. OR take everyone's word for it. OR require every single person who is alive in america have a doctor certify that they really are a male or a female so they can show everybody the piece of paper, because the situation is that some people have already had their birth certificate and other documents amended even tho to look at them you know their sex is not what they claim and they still have their dick and they're still narcissist as hell, and those people need to stay out as well.

So many problems with "compromise"....... What is your purpose for this "compromise" and why does your "compromise" involve women giving up single sex spaces. What exactly is the trans going to give up? Do they promise to stop with the doxxing and harassment and getting women fired from their jobs and why does that look like typical predatory manipulation to me? "If you give me access to your spaces so I can oggle you while you're changing at the community pool and I can accidentally flash my dick at your six year old daughter then I'll stop er being mean to you". That is enraging, WTF.

How about this as a "compromise". I'm entitled to single sex spaces when I am getting undressed or otherwise vulnerable or when placing me in with the men such as sports or in a male dominated environment it is a given that most women are going to lose out and lose out badly. My "compromise" is that transpeople can fuck off.

You might as say to a woman who's rejected some man's badgering demands for sex, "oh honey why can't you compromise with him". You are suggesting that I should give up my basic human rights in order to be nice.

And this, is why this sub and you fucking enrage the absolute shit out of me. I am required to be polite to some rando who wants to encourage young women who are still very much stuck in the "be kind" mentality that they've been indoctrinated since birth to give up our rights to which we are entitled.

FUCKING POLITE MY ASS. How about, you remember to be polite when I ever so gently suggest that it would be a great compromise to suggest that it's now possible to conceive a quite healthy female fetus using only two eggs and no sperm, so no boy children need ever be conceived and we don't have to deal with sexism ever again because no males pretty much equals no sexism. You remember to be polite when I offer this suggestion as a "compromise".