Interesting meta article questioning whether this kind of debate is even possible. Do you agree?

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[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I actually think GC have to be careful they don't fall into this mindset of thinking people only disagree because they want to oppress us or are being disingenuous. With the lens of radical feminism it can be easy to fall into the trap of thinking every problem and misunderstanding is due to female oppression rather than a multitude of other factors.

However when I look around social media I don't see rad fems refusing to debate or saying it's not worth their time. Rather they take their arguement to everyone. I've seen rad fems on twitter argue for days with belittling men who have no skin in the game. We're doing OK.

[–]DistantGlimmer[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's an interesting point. I do think that every group can be prone to insularity and echo chambers online. Especially a group like GC that does deal with no-platforming and blatant hostility from many quarters but I do also think that many GC/radfems do seek some kind of accomodation with trans people. Very rarely do I hear someone in a GC group say "every single trans woman is an evil fetishist misogynist. " That type of thinking only seems to really exist on the other side.

Of course that is not to say that GC people are not forceful in our opinions but I do think we tend to seek out debate and try to convince others we are right. Whether it would be different if GC was the side with the social power is an open question I suppose but I do feel the attitude of trans activists is very illiberal. .

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I suspected (when GC had a larger platform on reddit) that most GCers were people whose views were more in-line with JK Rowling's (trans people exist but don't agree with the TRAs) than people whose views were that gender doesn't exist and transgenderism therefore doesn't exist (a hardline radical feminist stance).