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[–]transwomanHesitantly QT? 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Men who think they're women do everything to engage in those sex role stereotypes, in fact, they define themselves by them. This is why men will grow their hair out, wear feminine clothing, makeup and do stereotypical behaviours like hair fllicking and fluttering eyelashes and those horrible selfies.

I'm curious to hear if you would criticize a natal woman for "upholding" these same stereotypes. I'm a trans woman, and I don't define my womanhood on the basis of sex stereotypes. For me it's primarily based on sex dysphoria, and secondary sexual characteristics. It has nothing to do with wearing makeup or wearing dresses or whatever. I like video games, which is a hobby associated with men and boys, but that doesn't change anything for me.

You're also begging the question, because in order for your argument to make sense, I have to assume that all trans women are stereotypically feminine and "do everything to engage in those sex role stereotypes". This is clearly not true, given I'm here right now and I could very easily list you trans women who bypass this caricature that you've made up. You could make the argument that much of the media representation of trans women stereotype femininity, but that's a whole different story (isn't that the patriarchy to blame for that, where the media is propping up the idea that women must be ultra feminine to garner any media attention?).

In fact, transgenderism doesn't want to eradicate gender, at all. It seeks to replace biological sex with sex role stereotypes as the definition of man and woman.

I really don't understand where this idea comes from, as it's a complete straw man of queer theory. All trans people know what biological sex is; it's the whole reason we transition in the first place. The terms "man" and "woman" are already defined as sex role stereotypes in a social context, and this problem was not introduced by trans people, but by the patriarchy. Pragmatically, the dictionary definitions of words do not always define the social usage of said words, so this idea that the dictionary definition of woman is "adult human female" and man is "adult human male" doesn't even really apply to this conversation given that, socially speaking, gender (including the terms man and woman) is quite literally a sexist oppressive force; nothing more, nothing less.

If you ask me, I don't want to replace any terms. I want to eliminate useless, oppressive terms. "Man" and "woman" should be mean "anyone who identifies as such," which is not a sex role stereotype as you claim I am trying to do. This redefinition is what will effectively make gender obsolete.

Today, men don't just engage in femininity. They claim they're women, but like those 80's men, they retain all the power and privilege of men. They don't challenge the sex role stereotypes of femininity. They claim that those sex role stereotypes ARE womanhood.

It is really interesting that you make these broad assumptions about what it means to be trans, while also undermining our own oppression. I don't even really want to get into this discussion because it's far beyond the original point, but non-passing trans people experience tons of discrimination, harassment, abuse, etc for being trans, and passing trans women experience much of the same discrimination and oppression that natal women might experience. That isn't to say that the oppression of trans women and natal women are identical, obviously not, but there are more often than not many, many stark similarities.

Point is, we all know who the men are who the women are. Gender stereotypes aren't going away with transgenderism. They're being upheld more strongly than ever.

Let's redefine the terms man and woman out of existence. Let's have 200 genders until it becomes so pointless to have gender that we stop using it. This can be accomplished with the inclusion of binary and non-binary transgender people in their respective gender identities. I want pineapple and pumpkin genders, I want apple and orange genders, literally anything we can think of to make it a completely impractical concept to even use in our society.

A man can wear a dress and lipstick and he still retains his power and privilege, and that's because everyone still knows he's a man.

This seems like an odd point to throw in, this argument that all trans women can be "clocked" as transgender. Maybe that's true (or maybe not), but then aren't you the one that's saying that women are a sex stereotype if a trans woman doesn't conform to your expectation of 'woman'? What happens when you have a natal woman who is very masculine in terms of their phenotypical expression? The point is that even if you think you "clocked" a trans woman, you can't really confirm that without proof (the trans women or someone else telling you, info from outside source), right?