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[–]yishengqingwa666 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Nope. Take this libfem, dick-pandering pile of bullshit someplace else.

https://radicalhubarchives.wordpress.com/radfem-101/

Also:

https://terfisaslur.com/

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How is this a response to my post?

If anything, you're proving my point by linking to a TERF website that claims women are oppressed by men.

I mean.... could you be anymore explicit?

"PIV and PIV-centric sexuality support male power."

(From your link.)

Plus, I thought this subreddit was inclusive of Liberal Feminists?

[–]SnowAssMan 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You're using the wrong sexist euphemism, you meant to say "SWERFs", not "TERFs", since you're not talking about transgenderism at all.

This reminds me of a quote by Betrand Russell: "the total amount of undesired sex endured by women is probably greater in marriage than in prostitution”. – I guess he was a radical feminist & is deserving of euphemistic slurs. Germaine Greer wrote a whole book on the topic, called 'On Rape'. I read the start of it, which can basically be summed up in Russell's quote.

Women are sold a romanticised idea about sexual intercourse that doesn't match the reality, plus most sexual encounters the male participant will be dominant & active, while the female one will be more submissive & passive. This blurs the lines of consent. Statutory rape & coercive rape are both recognised forms of rape because the woman does not know to what she is consenting, therefore her "consent" in those situations is rendered null & void.

Whatever unexpected things crop up during sex for him they are not on par with the gaping chasm between what the female participant expected vs. what she experienced, or at least what she thinks she experienced. A woman might have to critically analyse her first sexual encounter for the rest of her life or never fully see it for what it was. The man however won't since, he pretty much knew from the start what was going on: elaborate male masturbation.

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

"SWERFs" is also accurate.

Thanks for your input.

Many women come to regret their sexual activity before marriage.

[–]SnowAssMan 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

Also? TERF isn't accurate at all & neither is "SWERF" for that matter. Feminists who are critical of the notion that sex work is empowering are drawing their conclusions from the average sex worker i.e. trends. Conversely "sex positive" feminists only look ar exceptions: sex workers who don't have pimps, usually have an education & therefore a choice. Clearly the latter are "sex worker exclusionary".

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Hey you said it, not me.

I prefer to call them "TERFs" and I do think it's accurate.

By the way, I'm also trans-exclusionary, and I know that sex work is problematic. Most women can't engage in it without being damaged by their experience.

[–]SnowAssMan 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

Hey you said it, not me

Oh God, the pretend-to-be-stupid technique. This is what I said: You're using the wrong sexist euphemism, you meant to say "SWERFs", not "TERFs", since you're not talking about transgenderism at all

I'm not going to dumb it down for you. Accommodating stupidity (feigned or otherwise) never works. Just read it until you understand it.

No feminist is "trans exclusionary". When the trans movement says "exclusionary" what it means is: inclusion that isn't validating. For instance trans-women are allowed to participate in sports – men's sports = inclusion that isn't validating. The entire female sex is included under single-sex rights that feminists fight to protect, that includes trans people, since two thirds of trans people belong to the female sex.

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I'm a trans-exclusionary feminist.

I don't get why you don't own it.

[–]SnowAssMan 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

You're only semi-literate, try owning that.

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I upvoted because you make me laugh.

[–]SnowAssMan 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Isn't it ironic that you, a man pretending to be a woman, identifies as "trans exclusionary"

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not a man.