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[–]Feldheld 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

What good is that supposed to do?

[–]SMCAB 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

In fact, it's the only thing that will work. These numbers aren't enough of course, but the concept is the only thing that works.

Violence won't work. Large numbers of peaceful people, grandma's and children going outside, and peacefully saying, I'm done. No mortgages, no bills being paid, your dollar is the only vote you have. Check out Gene Sharp and his books on revolution. It lays out the concepts of non-violent revolution well.

I'm in no way saying it's possible, there aren't enough people that can even understand the concept without resorting to savagery, but the concept is the only real way.

[–]agent_pecan 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I disagree, violence will work. Massive violence against institutions, such that those central institutions are taken over, the members forced to flee and a new election can be held will work.

[–]SMCAB 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You can't commit violence against the worlds most violent governments. You're outgunned. You can resist, but cannot win. Maybe if the numbers were massive, maybe, but let's face it, look at your neighbors and see if you feel comfortable with that statement.

[–]agent_pecan 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

We lost afghan. Dudes in dresses with homemade guns beat back the world's best military. Anything is possible.

[–]SMCAB 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I mean I hear you, but you think we fight these wars to win them? These are proxy wars. For profit only. Winning and losing is of no consequence.

We fight these wars for one reason and one reason only, to blow shit up and give the contracts to ourselves to secure the resources and rebuild it.

You think this Russia Ukraine war needed to last more than a week? It didn't, if it was real.

If the citizenry came after the pillars of power using force, we'd be wiped, quickly. We're aren't playing with the same toys.

On the other hand, it's been shown that 90 percent of our military wouldn't fire on a peaceful citizenry, and peaceful people not willing to churn the machine has no answer. They have every answer in the book for violence. They wrote the book.