Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Women's rights under attack – here's why Europe has changed so dramatically | Fox News

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[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sure, however that is only because men still desire that... and that seems to be under attack (objectification of women). If we keep going with wokeness, desiring women will be wrong, it is patronizing and violence, which means that men will no longer see femininity as desirable, which means women will stop making themselves attractive and because they don't rely on men anymore, they can also be productive and work and make money, and thus, everyone is man-like.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

You confuse what they are saying to what the actual dynamic is.

Females dont want men to stop checking them out.

This is a way to put beta males in their place.

“You are not hot enough/rich enough to hit on me! How dare you! Learn your place.”

Its just a power play that hypergamous females are playing to intimidate lower status males.

If you are wearing high heels and a skirt and a tight top with cleavage showing and you spent a zillion hours watching James Charles makeup tutorials to get your face just right, you obviously totally thrive on male attention. Its sexual presentation.

I see young women turning up the sexual presentation if anything. But then claiming “Im just doing this to feel powerful and not to turn men on”. This is their narrative. Perhaps some are not even totally conscious of the signifigance of this behavior in sexual context, but the underlying motive is to get positive male attention. And it is power. Right now in our culture, certain powerful voices are encouraging women to be abusive to men. It is completely a double standard. Dont listen to the fairy tale they give you, look at the behavior.

Step 1 - look as sexy as possible

Step 2 - get males to notice you

Step 3 - castigate the ones you aren’t interested in for being pigs.

They just want to control males more than they already are, especially poor betas.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah you are talking about traditional females. I'm talking about what is going on right now with all the wokeness, and how they are redefining women (or trying to, whether it will work or not). I agree women understand femininity and use it to their advantage sometimes.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well some of these gals dont pass as traditional but I know what you mean.

I think a lot of these women dont feel comfortable in their female bodies or they feel they cant compete sexually with other women so they die thieir hair blue and get tattoo sleeves. This way they dont have to compete with other women.

They have a fabulous justification for just dropping out of the reproductive competition. The expectation of making yourself sexually attractive to the opposite sex is deemed “oppression”, so they run around yelling “muh oppression” and they are off the hook. I think we are dealing with a lot of ugly ducklings in these cases.

Having to compete in the sexual arena is oppressive. I mean it is a burden for everybody. You are judged and often found wanting. Its painful. There are losers. Its not fair. But we have to carry on the human race.

The people that control popular culture just hate people and dont care how much they damage pliable young minds.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, completely agree.