Germany: All EU Members Must Take in Migrants. Visegrad 4: No.

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[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Yes. There is an obligation to help those fleeing from death.

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

yes, that's why they are all young males who left their families behind, because they are fleeing from death! but it's only them, who are in danger of death, not the rest of their families! the rest of their families are safe somehow ! :-)

in reality once they get the papers from a western state they will go back home and bring their families with them.

also, once they start receiving money from the state they frequently use it to vacation back in their own country. such death... ooga-booga!

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Kindly use capitalization. This shows you think your writing is worth reading.

Also, please provide a cite to your your claim “they are all young males.” Many thanks.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

https://saidit.net/s/Europe/comments/1nul/hungarian_tv_on_migrant_camps_in_bosnia/

count the number of males in this report vs the number of females and report it back to this thread

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Seems you are making stuff up. Why are you doing that?

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

you don't get to run your mouth like that. prove me wrong or shut up..

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Provide a cite, son.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

i am not your son.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You also are making stuff up. Now, why are you doing it?

If you know what you said is true, you would gleefully find a cite and put me in my place. If you know what you say is true, you would already have a source in mind that proved to you this point. A source that will prove it to me too.

You do not have a cite. You seem unwilling to look for one. This means even you yourself think you might be wrong.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You do not have a cite.

you choose to ignore it:

https://saidit.net/s/Europe/comments/1mka/germany_all_eu_members_must_take_in_migrants/4aqx

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Why isn't Israel sharing in this obligation?

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Israel accepts refugees every day.

Why are you asking me about Israel? Go ask an Israeli. Go read Wikipedia.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You're right! They allowed in a whopping 4 REFUGEES in 2015.

Please cite some evidence that Israel is accepting them as policy.

Will be waiting!

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Do you have the Google installed on you computing-machine?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_policy_for_non-Jewish_African_refugees

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

In any case, you seem oddly focused on Israel and Jews. Why is that?

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I already stated that accepting Jews to israel is policy.

Prove they are accepting NON-JEWISH refugees.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Yes, I provided that cite. The first one. Are you having trouble opening it?

Why all the interest in Israel and Jews?

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Wikipedia:

By 2015, the Israeli government began giving Sudanese and Eritrean refugees a choice to either return to their home countries, move to another state, or be imprisoned.[13] Many migrants lived in facilities such as Saharonim Prison and similar ones, where they are free to leave during the day, but must return at night or face imprisonment.[13]

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Cool. So why don’t you start a discussion about Israel? You seem fascinated by that country. You might attract the attention of people familiar with it.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

From 2006-2012, a large influx of African asylum seekers arrived to Israel, with many having been trafficked through the Sinai Peninsula. An alarming number of these asylum seekers were also survivors of violence and torture. Although the state of Israel ratified both the United Nations Refugee Convention of 1951 and its Protocols of 1964, in practice it has been a reluctant host to asylum seekers. Less than 1% of refugee claims have been recognized by Israel, one of the lowest rates in the western world. Additionally, the Israeli government routinely refers to asylum seekers as "infiltrators" and has incited negative public opinion against them.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Around 90% of asylum seekers in Israel are from Eritrea or Sudan. Though Israel has recognized fewer than 1% of asylum seekers as refugees, it upholds the principle of non-refoulement, acknowledging that some asylum seekers are in danger if returned to their home countries. Therefore, the state policy toward these asylum seekers is one of temporary non-deportation, officially referred to as “group protection.” The only right this status gives them is a temporary stay on deportation, and they must renew their visas every 3-6 months. Additionally, the state has employed various tactics to coerce asylum seekers into "choosing" to leave on their own, including detention (see below), limited access to medical care, and withholding of their wages.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Through both its actions and words, the Israeli government has made it clear that they want asylum seekers to leave Israel. As an added incentive, the Ministry of the Interior (MOI) also offers $3,500 to individuals who choose to leave the country. In March 2015, the Israeli MOI announced to the media that they would be implementing a new initiative for the “removal of infiltrators” to a third country. Under this policy, any asylum seeker residing in Holot who had not applied for refugee status, or whose refugee status determination (RSD) request had been rejected, would be eligible for deportation to a third country or indefinite imprisonment in Saharonim. Since announcing this new initiative, thousands of asylum seekers have chosen to leave Israel.