AOC Spills The Beans. We Already KNEW This. Now it's Confirmed

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[–]useless_aether 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (22 children)

you never delete any posts that have the word jew in the title. why is that huh?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

You are asking me to censor others now? You're really ridiculous.

[–]useless_aether 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (20 children)

your idea to censor me is even more so

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Because you do not observe the rules of the website. Instead you want me to cater to your agenda, while ALSO not following site rules!

Shameful.

[–]useless_aether 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (18 children)

so jew hatred and communist propaganda are conforming with your rules? you cater to antisemitism and leftist ideology? nothing can be as shameful as that.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Calls leftist views: Communist propaganda.

Says "Jews" in titles is "Jew Hatred"

Post all you want about how a tightly knit group of Jesuits rule the world. That's fine. I'll continue to post about how I disagree with certain Jews on political Zionism and their religion.

Doesn't mean I'm enticing violence against them.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

This coming from a guy who just made a post about attracting looters to shoot with a gun!

Take a look in the mirror! I think saidit has had enough of your baseless lies, talking-points propaganda, and dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate. Goodbye.

[–]fred_red_beans 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (15 children)

That's too bad...

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Yeah it is too bad... He's been here a long time and occasionally has great posts. But I can't just let these things fester, especially when it's becoming clear to me that his long-term goal is to post a whole lot (20x a day, every day, for months) to sway the website culture in the direction of easily-verifiable disinformation and extremism, which is very much against our mission goal of not becoming voat.

[–]fred_red_beans 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (12 children)

I did find the information he posted interesting at times. I think it's fair to call out this post in particular as there should be some evidence the tweet existed somewhere (other than a screen shot).

His complaining about anti-semitism looks bad, especially if he won't really back it up. I know he argued that Jusuits were the core of the cult rather than Zionists et al, and I do think he should be able to argue whatever point he want's to.

I think Jesus made a valid point here:

Why is he so far from the truth? You cannot just link a YouTube video and say nothing else. You did that to me, when I explained what I believe the Monita Secreta really was and where it came from. You literally linked me a video talking about Nazis and not once did it mention the 16th century episode of the blood Purity Laws of the old Jesuits and the Monita Secreta.

https://saidit.net/s/Infographics/comments/4vua/names_of_the_titles_of_all_33_degrees_of/i8u4

Again, I think useless_aether has contributed a lot of interesting posts as well...

It seems to me that perhaps he's become more argumentative in the last months, with you, Jesus, and other users. We are all in a period of time where everyone is more aggravated and is driven to be so. Perhaps he just felt more passionate about his position rather than having a goal of swaying this website culture? His own passion may have led him to shitty sources as well.

I don't know, perhaps you've had issues going back for a while and have had other communications in regards to such. Dude's been here for a while though and mod's 24 subs. He's always posted a lot. What posts do you feel are easily-verifiable disinformation and extremism?

I guess I just feel his dismissal shouldn't be taken lightly as I've seen him as core poster for a long time, even when there was not so much traffic here, he posted something worth considering.

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Well d3rr seems to agree, so perhaps I've over-reached and banned when I should not have. He was really riding that line, where some posts were great, and others were obviously divide-and-conquer disinformation. His refusal to further his understanding on issues that he would constantly post about was dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate.

I will unban him and give him another chance. Trust me this is not a decision I made lightly, this literally took up 3 hours of my day today and he received many warnings beforehand. And he did agree to not ever to post posts advocating violence again, like did yesterday. But I will reverse the decision since both you and d3rr seem to think I've made a mistake by banning him, and I also do think he had a lot of good posts that I will miss. He did make 5 more accounts to post content as ban evasions though, so that wasn't a good look either.

But okay, I'll undo the ban. He gets one more chance.

[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

I wouldn't ban useless_aether but now I know what he stands for and he is fine with expressing his views in a non-fallacious way to inform us in what he believes to be true...

On poal.co, of which I was a member way back when, useless aether was also a member, in which he posted this:

Why is everyone else smarter than us? India prepares to bar citizenship for Muslims, incarcerate and deport Muslim residents (archive.md) useless_aether

Meaning he clearly believes that muslims should be bared from citizenship in the US; incarcerated and deported. He posts this but then tells me that I want to genocide Jews for criticizing Likudnik Jews and Judaism, telling me you will have "blood on your hands..."

I never ONCE posted that Jews should be incarcerated, deported and barred from citizenship. I am merely against dual-citizenship in government. Israelis ie. Israeli Nationals should not be in US government let alone in the Whitehouse. nor should Qatari Nationals but Jews are welcome and so are not muslims! The latter group, it appears, Aether wants out of the country which in itself is a form of genocide by international Law, not that the US or Israel care.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

/u/magnora7

https://saidit.net/s/USPolitics/comments/4xon/michigan_muslim_cleric_calls_us_a_police_state/

^ ^ ^ Read this post. A debate between Azaad and Useless_aether. It's long but at the end, after you click the link to the next page he appears to forum slide and drag the debate down considerably. And I noticed he was overtly putting words in Azaad's mouth like it was almost coordinated to try to get him to agree to something.

Azaad personally had enough with him and ended the debate.

That being said, I think a ban was a little harash but as of late he has been quite argumentive in all the wrong fallacious ways.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nah