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[–]HopeThatHalps 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Food prep workers: when this is automated, food taste less fresh, because it's prep'd over there, but eaten over here.

Waiters, waitresses, cooks: I think having a machine do this defeats the purpose of eating out at a restaurant.

Sales reps, receptionists: Sales and reception are about understanding people without their having to explain themselves. That level of AI is still a ways out.

Landscaping labor: I don't think so, a robot pulling weeds, trimming bushes, carting away debris? Maybe someday, not soon, though.

I don't agree that law enforcement is safe against automation. A lot of their busy work, such as speeding and parking tickets, traffic management, standing around watching, will easily be obsoleted by automation.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I saw a fry cooker can doing 5 cooks job simultaneously on a shopping site recently,that kind of stuff got great reviews like:I fired 2 cookers since I got the machine!!!

A part of law enforcement is not safe .

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I didn't realize running a deep fryer was all that labor intensive, and I worked in the food service industry for several years.

As for food assembly, I can understand that it's a mechanical process, but when I think of machines doing all the work, I can only imagine the machine would get incredibly dirty, which grease splatter, gunk buildup, erant crumbs and sesame seeds, and dried up liquids around nozzles, in addition to having to be constantly restocked. Also if you get a lunch rush, you can have additional people work the line, but a big machine would probably have a fixed capacity. I have a feeling that food prep automation is still realistically a ways away.

On the other hand, I will applaud then the drive-thru operators are made obsolete, because they mess up my order so often, I'd rather just interact with a kiosk.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I guess that would be a big deal in Eastern cuisine, incidentally their human labor costs are a lot cheaper anyhow.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even the labor costs are lower there, they still really want to fire them.

[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Food prep could always be automated on-site.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think that's what ultimately happens, I think it become more like Starbucks, where you have food prepped at some distribution point, and then there is a small vending point on nearly every street corner, so the quality is lower, but you only have to walk fifty feet to get it, and that's just a sacrifice people are willing to make.

I'd said salesmenship cant be replaced by automation, I think that's mostly what the baristas are there to do, smiling and saying hello is almost more important than the physical actions they carry out. If Starbucks was nothing but a bank of elaborate vending machines, I dont think they would do nearly as well.

[–]fred_red_beans 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

The other career that is safe is engineering and automation...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

...for now.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I disagree.After all those people got fired, they will join the engineering and automation career, and then...you know.

And a part of engineering can be automated.

[–]Zombi 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is the thing people tend to miss. Everyone says "But automation will create jobs just like the auto industry replacing horses!" but then forget that the auto industry didn't replace the necessity for human workers, it replaced the the tools we used.

They also say the same of factory workers "But automation only created jobs for factory workers!" Again, the tools changed, not the necessity for human workers.

This is the FIRST time in history we're facing a massive shift away from requiring humans for labor completely. Everyone says there'll be a need for engineers. Ok, so thousands of engineering jobs open up while millions are unemployed and most likely in no way qualified to be engineers. Do people really think that a laborer, chef, customer support, or secretary can just go an get an engineering degree while jobless? Do these people even understand how hard being an engineer is? It just boggles my mind. You're asking Stacy who just gave you the wrong burger to uproot her whole $7.60/hr + tips life and become an engineer; that's completely unrealistic.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Maybe I didn't make my words clear, I wanted to say the wage of engineers will become 2 USD per day.

[–]Zombi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Either that or there just won't be enough openings to fill the void made by automation. Whatever happens, people will be broke.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Revolution for UBI now !

Retroactively ! ! !

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with this, but not because I think automation is creating a dependent class, but rather automation is more generally freeing people from having to engage in low skilled labor in general. Once you have machines wholly producing food, structures and gadgets, the cost becomes so low as to be nearly free, and so universal basic income doesn't need to be that much money, either. Even now I see things on Amazon that cost so little, I wonder how they even justify selling making, selling and shipping it in the first place.

[–]Work2Death 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Reading over this, i don't see an expected time frame. If this is anticipated to occur within the next five years, it's a problem. If it's expected to occur over the next fifty years, then it's not a big deal.

This looks like clickbait BS.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I looked at their source, willrobotstakemyjob.com, and it seems like their methodology is jobs which could conceivably be automated sometime in the future, knowing what we know now about technology and the way in which it's progressing. So the timeframe is super loose, that's a valid point.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If the job can be replaced by a kind of technology, and the technology exists, why you think they will wait 50 years to replace?

[–]Snow 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I am sure that there is a group will not be fired: Someone working 12 hours per day, wage under 2 USD per day.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

its sad, nothing can beat slavery, not even robots :-\

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Robots are another kind of slave, until the day they become self-aware.

[–]Doob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People in the 50%-100% range hopefully see this coming. (It's pretty obvious)

[–]Yhvr 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This will keep happening if people keep up the "Fight for 15".

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It will continue even if they don't.

[–]Yhvr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I know. I'm just saying it'll happen quicker if they do it.

[–]happysmash27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think some of these jobs are already automated, such as cashiers, already automated through self-checkout.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I was interested to see what the forecast was for #44.

[–]useless_aether[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

a great sound when the robot hits the pole

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And they will try everything to fire someone's wage got more than 10 USD per day.