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[–]Spotted_Lady 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Parents doing this to their trans daughters is abuse, IMHO. I don't particularly support the trans community, but every person has the right to be who they want to be. And to pretend who someone really is doesn't exist, that is truly undignified.

In cases such as this, and no ill will to the parents in this particular case, it is often the parents who were responsible for such a death due to such treatment.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Perhaps there was unresolved trauma that drove them to the trans cult in the first place. What then?

[–]Spotted_Lady 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Yes, that is quite possible. There is usually more than one side. And how do we distinguish those with bonafide gender dysphoria from those who have drunk the Kool-Aid?

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Even if you have gender dysphoria it doesn't make you a different person.

A gendered name isn't somehow written into your DNA.

Plenty of people give their baby girls traditional boy's names and they never feel the need to change them.

That's just taking on a persona, acting as someone you aren't.

[–]Spotted_Lady 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I think you may misunderstand. Nobody said that gender dysphoria makes someone a different person. They transition to be more of what they already were all along.

The whole point for true transsexuals is to be comfortable in their own skin and to get others to treat them according to how they should have been born and raised all along. As for non-op transgender, yeah, I certainly cannot disagree with you. Transsexuals had acceptance to the point they worked to earn it, and then non-op transgender cultists came along and messed it up for them.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They transition to be more of what they already were all along.

This is clearly fantasy nonsense. What you are is what you are. There isn't some hidden real part of you realler than the rest. All of you is you.

Transition very rarely makes trans people comfortable in their skins. This is why suicide rates actually go up after surgery. Because they are fixing any of their real problems, which are usually mental illness and/or personality disorders.

See Iran, where the majority of transitioners are true trans as you would see them.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/

[–]Spotted_Lady 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No fantasy at all. Some are truly born with a female brain and wrongly have a male body by no choice of their own. The ones who fit this model are very rare. And I specifically mentioned transsexuals, not male deviants who lie and pretend to be transsexuals and women ("transgender").