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[–]jagworms 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Vaccines save lives. There's no medical intervention that has saved more since antibiotics. The evidence isn't weak or in any way non-convincing.

I'm calling your bluff. No vaccine that currently exists has been tested against inert placebo for safety. They assume the older one is safe, and compare the new one to it. That's not science, that's fuckery.

Your support of vaccines is not fact based, it's faith based. I don't want to continue to denigrate your religion, so please GTFO.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No vaccine that currently exists has been tested against inert placebo for safety.

That's ridiculous.

Here's one for the Oxford, AstraZeneca covid-19 vaccine. The control was a placebo of saline.

Very many other vaccines and drugs would have similarly been tested against an inert placebo during phase 3 trials.

Your support of vaccines is not fact based, it's faith based.

Oh, the irony.

[–]jagworms 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How safe did that one turn out to be? People are dropping like flies.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How safe did that one turn out to be?

Pretty good, afaict.

People are dropping like flies.

Maybe they didn't get the vaccine.