My Body... My Choice..

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[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The only laws that currently exist apply to children. Anything else is a red herring.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Let's look at 'laws for children', perhaps state by state, we've got new laws, but there was traditionally always an 'out'. States are trying to make it where there's no 'out' in any way. Like the 'out' they try to steal from the kids in public schools, businesses force similar mandates on employees=healthcare, or related.... Furthermore from there, there are states trying to force adults into vaccines as well.

Forcing the individual to act against what they consider their better nature, better health, for the greater good as determined by the mob; is a sort of fascist authoritarian, and by extension by way of 20th century examples, communist.

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

States are trying to make it where there's no 'out' in any way.

Can you give a concrete example?

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Both of the links below I think will work; honestly, since google has started 'insuring informed, and correct choices', I'm finding it more challenging to search taboo stuff.

https://www.intellihub.com/mandatory-vaccines-for-adults-leave-it-to-california/

https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/labor-employment-law/human-resources-law/forcing-flu-shots-employees-and-health-at-work.html

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That law applies to health and child care workers, people who come in to contact with many kids or sick people every day. You say they're trying to go after everybody, the facts just don't support that.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sigh, my only point is it's not about the children alone. They absolutely are moving towards forcing vaccines across the board. First is the chatter, and encouragement; I hear vaccine ads on the radio all the time, I see 'get your flu shot here', signs everywhere(pharmacies, grocery stores). From there, look at the number of professions that require vaccines; they're numerous, but allow 'exemptions', but it's a hoopfest, you better be ready to jump through the hoops, or you get stuck getting the jab, or losing your job; one link I provided already leans towards revealing this, as in searching some things for this thread, I found many lawyer's sites, that at the very least have part of their practice in fighting for these exemptions....... If they're having to fight them with such regularity, as to advertise, and advise for free on their sites, then it stands to simple logical reasoning that it's a real issue.

Here's a similar link regarding the military: https://www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/Health-Readiness/Immunization-Healthcare/Clinical-Consultation-Services/Exemption-Guidance <<<--- it looks like deferring vaccines can restrict duty; fine(joining without duress, and wanting to serve without vaccines, one should take the duty they can get). However, and it's not a stretch, if the draft was put into use, and you had no reason for exemption other than not wanting one, you'd be forced to take the shot. Under draft, and forced.

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're grasping at straws, looking for evidence they want to compel everyone to do something they might not want to do, but there is zero evidence of that being their intent. In all of these cases there is some extrinsic concern that underpins the law. Show one example where they are obviously trying to make people do something just for the sake of doing it. You're allowing your own fears of being controlled by others to interfere with your objectivity over the facts at hand. Your irrationality can cause people to die for this very reason, you freak out that you're being controlled by the government, and so you dont go along with some measure that might save lives, your own or others.

When you sign up for the military, you give ownership of your body to the US Govt. I would not suggest anyone do that.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I'm not grasping at straws, and I'm not afraid. Look at what's going on in New York, the article linked below is for anybody. They ramble on about how it's for the children(what's not for the children?), but it's applied to everyone.

*"Members of the city's Health Department will check the vaccination records of any individual who may have been in contact with infected patients.

Those who have not received the vaccine or do not have evidence of immunity may be given a violation and could be fined $1,000."* https://wcbs880.radio.com/articles/mayor-de-blasio-declares-health-emergency-orders-measles-vaccinations-williamsburg-amid

I'm sure you'll say 'no', and that's fine, we can agree to disagree. On that note, you somewhat missed my reference to the military; people don't always have a choice to join.