Some things don't change

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[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

The UK.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Are you going to stick to your claim that the UK has twice the ethnic diversity as the US?

Are you also claiming that Scottish, Irish, and English should be considered distinct ethnic groups?

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I know it's not the most reliable source, but it has a pie chart. Using religion as a rough indicator of culture (because more can agree on the metric than on ethnicity):

US religion (scroll down) (note that "Christian" is separated into three groups, and is massive. UK religion, however, provides a still-large "Christian" but about twice the number of other religions. Note that there are enough that it can actually name several and still have them visible on the pie chart.

But, to answer your facetious question, "Irish" is usually considered a different ethnic group to "English". And, more relevantly, the distribution of these groups is (anecdotally) a lot[vague] less polarised than in the US.

But, anyway, I think we've ruled out ethnic diversity as the reason for the discrepancy. Any other possible factors?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Nothing has been ruled out.

Your attempt to defend your argument is an absurdity.

Ethnicity has absolutely nothing at all to do with religion.

People can change their religion.

Ethnicity cannot be changed.

For example:

Jesus was Jewish.

Modern Israelis are typically Jewish from eastern european origins.

Jesus was not eastern european.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Sorry, Tom, I can't deal with this today. I could pick any statistic and you'd argue against it in this manner.

How am I supposed to show ethnic and cultural diversity – something that you can't really quantify – using the data from sources that we'd both consider unbiased (e.g. the census)?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Census statistics is a logical starting point.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I tried that.

Or do you mean census statistics for reported ethnicity? Surely that'll just be testing how many options the government puts in?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

87.1% white in 2011.

There's no way you even tried.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh, you meant race by "ethnicity". Ok. Thanks for the clarification.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No. I'm mean ethnicity, by ethnicity.

Race is a political term. The term "race" is not interchangable with ethnicity.