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[–]EndlessSunflowers 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

I'm not supporting "child sacrifice" but there are definitely waaay too many people popping out waaay to many babies - too too many mindless people exploding the human population. and it's exponential, in the Billions! We could and should be "planning" better. lol

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

if you honestly believe that, start with yourself and kill yourself. you would die with the knowledge that you are doing the rest of us a favor.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Easy there, bud. That's a bottom of the Pyramid of Sacrifice (see above) argument Satan shit..

Suicide is not the answer. Let's stick to constructive and thought provoking methods of sacrifice..

In any case, planned Parenthood is an abomination that has arisen from the ashes of the eugenics movement. The correlation of PP and large populations of African Americans far exceeds the correlation with low income.

PP was founded for black genocide.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

(Warning: I'm pulling you into a massive, in-depth ethical debate. Just a heads-up.)

Would you consider abstinence from sex between any given man and woman to be murder? If they'd had sex, then a child would've been born.

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

no. my view, at least at this point is, that abortion is (for the lack of a better word) 'fine' until week 4-5, that is, until the heart develops. this means there is no monetary incentive. there are no developed organs or plasma, nothing to sell really afaik. when it comes to sex, use condoms unless you want to bring a new life into this world. use condoms anyway for the obvious reasons. but imho, ideally, only have sex with long term partners if at all possible.

[–]poestal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

and IYO what about medical 'necessity'? what about fetal growth abnormalities that surpasses the 4-5 week deadline? I mean first trimester screening is completed between weeks 11 and 13 of pregnancy, and blood work and ultra sound can only show so much during the fetus developing stages. are you advocating a child be born with a severe birth defect?

and since we are on this topic, If you don't mind commenting as well with this question; do you or will your first choice be to adopt rather than having a child of your own? would you take on a child with a mental disability? if not why?

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

are you advocating a child be born with a severe birth defect?

what do you mean by severe birth defects? i think a lot of people like the ones with down syndrome can lead happy lives, have friends etc

do you or will your first choice be to adopt rather than having a child of your own?

i would be open to both.

would you take on a child with a mental disability?

well, if left without a choice... it would be a challenge. and i would not try to kill him or her thats for sure.

[–]poestal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

birth defects like cyclopia 1/16,000 probability. trisomy18 1/5,000, anencephaly 1/3,350 , CHD 1/4, and thousands of others that are potentialy fatal, or there's others like fibrodysplasia or Epidermolysis bullosa that aren't potentially lethal but leads to a very short lifespan of nothing but misery to the diagnosed (there's a lot more than just downs).

I bring up my last comment meaning would you take in an orphan with a disability because they are a huge percentage of neglected and unwanted.

and i'm saying that because I always hear people virtue signaling that they would care for unwanted children rather than abortion but thats rarely true. not only is it very rare that they adopt but if/when they do they very much choose a child within 5 year age range thats perfectly healthy rather than an older child.

[–]useless_aether[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

and i'm saying that because I always hear people virtue signaling that they would care for unwanted children rather than abortion but thats rarely true. not only is it very rare that they adopt but if/when they do they very much choose a child within 5 year age range thats perfectly healthy rather than an older child.

i know, people want perfect and easy lives, thats why i said if left wo a choice.. soon i will visit a friend with an autistic child, maybe it will be educative

birth defects like cyclopia 1/16,000 probability. trisomy18 1/5,000, anencephaly 1/3,350 , CHD 1/4, and thousands of others that are potentialy fatal, or there's others like fibrodysplasia or Epidermolysis bullosa that aren't potentially lethal but leads to a very short lifespan of nothing but misery to the diagnosed (there's a lot more than just downs).

i would leave it to the family to make a decision and leave the state out of the picture.

[–]poestal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

i would leave it to the family to make a decision and leave the state out of the picture.

yeah thats something that I agree with; let the families choose due to their personal context of the situation rather than states legislators making laws forbidding to do so due to religious or morality sake.

thank you for your time and answering my questions.

[–]wizzwizz4 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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Please, both of you, stay on this site and see if you can't spread this attitude. (cc /u/useless_aether)

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Would you consider abstinence from sex between any given man and woman

Some people aren't into the 3-way; even though it's not gay.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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